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Old March 17th, 2013, 10:13 PM   #4381
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Old March 17th, 2013, 10:21 PM   #4382
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This tower is as disappointing as they come.
imho i must agree to that. To me, it looks like a soulless glass shoebox. I know it's supposed to be a modern design, but where is the design in a shoebox? If you ask a 3 year old to draw an office tower, this is the design that will get drawn. 1 and 2 wtc (although not having the height of asian towers ofcourse) at least have some design to them, but it looks like 2 (and 3) won't be build for a long time. The skyline will still look crippled and 4 will make it bland and dull.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 10:24 PM   #4383
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imho i must agree to that. To me, it looks like a soulless glass shoebox. I know it's supposed to be a modern design, but where is the design in a shoebox? If you ask a 3 year old to draw an office tower, this is the design that will get drawn. 1 and 2 wtc (although not having the height of asian towers ofcourse) at least have some design to them, but it looks like 2 (and 3) won't be build for a long time. The skyline will still look crippled and 4 will make it bland and dull.
Sadly I'll have to agree
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Old March 17th, 2013, 10:30 PM   #4384
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Architecture is not solely about details or fancy forms. Sometimes less is more.


Ugh, imagine if some huge postmodernist tower like Shanghai Tower was in NYC
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Old March 17th, 2013, 10:34 PM   #4385
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imho i must agree to that. To me, it looks like a soulless glass shoebox. I know it's supposed to be a modern design, but where is the design in a shoebox? If you ask a 3 year old to draw an office tower, this is the design that will get drawn. 1 and 2 wtc (although not having the height of asian towers ofcourse) at least have some design to them, but it looks like 2 (and 3) won't be build for a long time. The skyline will still look crippled and 4 will make it bland and dull.
I would only ask if you have seen this building in person. It looks like a simple box, but what I didn't realize until I visited the first time, is that it is not so simple. The angles are subtle but perfect. The way it fits into and interacts with its context is stunning to see in real life, and impossible to capture by camera or render. I thought this building to be boring, until I saw it in real life. Now, it is one of my favorites, perhaps because it looks so simple, but when you are standing next to it you can appreciate the complexity.

(If you have seen it in real life, and you still think so - well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. I guess I am just saying - give it a chance in real life first.)
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Old March 17th, 2013, 10:38 PM   #4386
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That is with most towers.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 10:43 PM   #4387
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I don't look at this building as some soulless blue box. 4 wtc has special design features which make it awesome. First of all, like 1 WTC, it's corners catch light creating an awesome display of natural light at the right time of day. Second, at the right angle, it reflects the top of 1 WTC, the main tower, above the setback.


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Old March 18th, 2013, 03:20 AM   #4388
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Old March 18th, 2013, 04:50 AM   #4389
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Old March 18th, 2013, 05:00 AM   #4390
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Ugh, imagine if some huge postmodernist tower like Shanghai Tower was in NYC
What's wrong with Shanghai Tower?
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Old March 18th, 2013, 05:04 AM   #4391
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It's a big whacky extroverted shape, whereas NYC is bsed on reserved, formal, and classy designs.
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Amazing Sexy picture I just wish they would install that one piece of glass in the square section of 4 WTC Its been missing like forever now but I am very impresses how that gap is filling two thirds done on North side!!!
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Old March 18th, 2013, 07:58 AM   #4393
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Thought i should judge 1 and 4 wtc equally! So i re-posted it here.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 11:46 PM   #4394
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Old March 20th, 2013, 05:30 PM   #4396
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Marketing the World: Silverstein Properties’ Jeremy Moss on Leasing the Country’s Most Conspicuous Building Complex

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"...Where are you focusing your energy next?

With 7 World Trade Center fully leased, we’re focused on 4 World Trade Center, which will open at the end of 2013. It’s the next chapter in the history of the rebuilding of the World Trade Center, and I’m really looking forward to walking people into that lobby and showing them the extraordinary architecture and the views. We are very focused on leasing at that building, and we’re in discussions with a number of different companies looking for larger blocks of space—anywhere from 200,000 to one million [square] feet.

Who are you marketing it to, and what can tenants look forward to?

The lobby has a 46-foot-high ceiling, which creates an extraordinary impression when you enter the building. There’s a granite floor, floor-to-ceiling glass and polished black granite on the wall, which is designed to reflect the park behind you as you enter the lobby, intended to make you feel like you’re outside. I can’t think of another lobby like it in New York City. And up top, you have 360-degree views that are spectacular, and the advantage that we have in the location is that we don’t have any other building obstructing our views—we have views of the river, we have views of Midtown—so it’s really spectacular.

We’re seeing interest from a whole range of different tenants in all sorts of industries, and I think that speaks to two things: the appeal of new construction because of the efficiency it offers and the impact that a sustainable building can have on productivity..."
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Old March 21st, 2013, 09:29 PM   #4397
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 12:23 AM   #4399
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looks like the curtain wall has reached the parapet

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Yes, for two weeks.
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