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Old July 30th, 2014, 08:09 PM   #5481
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Old July 30th, 2014, 08:10 PM   #5482
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Old July 30th, 2014, 09:46 PM   #5483
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stopping potential terrorist from using cars/trucks with explosives?
So, all this trouble to get a potential terrorist truck a few meters farther from the entrance? Even if I were to pretend that this was a worthwhile idea, why not just have the sidewalks come out farther? If this lane is so secure, why the need for the inner row of bollards? This setup is hideous, and it extends an entire block south of the complex too. Will there be a guardhouse stationed next to Charlys as well? This just keeps getting progressively worse, but at least they can always be removed when (read: if) the paranoia wears off.
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Old July 30th, 2014, 09:52 PM   #5484
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On the brighter side of things, perhaps the mall's southern IRT access point will open sooner than the rest of the concourse.

Also, according to a construction worker sitting by the tower, they are replacing the lobby's ceiling because "someone" didn't like the way it looked. I think it looks fine how it is, but I wonder what the new ceiling will look like.
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Old July 30th, 2014, 11:36 PM   #5485
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Some bad news, the remaining portion of the hoist will not come down until 12/14, meaning Liberty St sidewalk will not open until then for Tower 4.
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Old July 31st, 2014, 07:37 AM   #5486
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Old July 31st, 2014, 04:17 PM   #5487
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Some bad news, the remaining portion of the hoist will not come down until 12/14, meaning Liberty St sidewalk will not open until then for Tower 4.
Just as well, though; it gives them more time to open the IRT access point, which will likely be one of the main uses of this corner until the mall fully opens. However, it would be nice to loosen the pedestrian choke-hold on Liberty Street as soon as possible.
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Old July 31st, 2014, 11:36 PM   #5488
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Old July 31st, 2014, 11:49 PM   #5489
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What exactly is this "secure lane" for?

Could it be a cycle lane?
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Old July 31st, 2014, 11:52 PM   #5490
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No, it's just restricted to vehicles unless you have the proper credentials, same goes for the rest of the roads in and immediately around the "campus".
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Old August 1st, 2014, 12:15 AM   #5491
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I do remember some mention of bicycle access, although now I'm struggling to recall whether they will be allowed to enter and exit freely, or not.

I feel like they are going to be allowed unrestricted access, mainly because a bike isn't sturdy enough to carry the kinds of explosives they're really worried about (usually a couple hundred to a few thousand pounds). If anyone recalls or can find the pertinent article, please chime in.
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Old August 1st, 2014, 12:18 AM   #5492
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Bikes and pedestrians can enter and exit freely. There's also a Trusted Access Program for vehicles to enroll in to bypass the screening process. Each vehicle will take approx 2 mins to be screened at a sally port.
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Old August 1st, 2014, 12:49 AM   #5493
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You can already pass through with bikes, I've seem tons of people do it already. Of course they are walking across the plaza with it probably because you aren't aloud to ride there, but I don't see it being an issue once all the roads and sidewalks are open.
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Old August 1st, 2014, 08:29 PM   #5494
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/01/ny...-ago.html?_r=0

Church and Cortlandt are now officially open and public. This is a major milestone, folks.


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On Friday, New Yorkers will be able to do something they have not done in nearly half a century: stand on the corner of Cortlandt and Greenwich.

It will be the first recreated street intersection on what had been the monolithic World Trade Center site, the first three-dimensional expression of a long-sought goal to reintegrate the 16-acre site with the rest of Lower Manhattan.

This new crossroads, with constantly merging streams of pedestrians, ought to go far in restoring an urban pulse to the trade center site, which was cut off from its surroundings by design before Sept. 11, 2001, and by catastrophe and construction ever since.

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the World Trade Center, is to take down more fences on Friday to open Cortlandt Way, as the east-west street is now called on the trade center side.

Patrick J. Foye, the executive director of the authority, said the opening of Cortlandt Way provided “a critical link for pedestrians to access the memorial and the site’s office towers.”

Cortlandt Way will not be open to vehicles. The central roadbed, paved in Mesabi black granite and lined with honey locusts, will be reserved for pedestrians. On either side there will be steps and small terraces in front of stores and restaurants operated under lease with Westfield World Trade Center, which controls almost all the retail space at the site.

Only the south side of Cortlandt Way, running along the nearly finished 4 World Trade Center, will be open for the time being. The north side is not likely to open for at least two years, as 3 World Trade Center nears completion.

Even with those qualifications, however, advocates of a street grid through the trade center site welcomed the opening of Cortlandt Way. It was designed by PWP Landscape Architecture, which also worked on the memorial.

“From the very beginning, one of the key words was connectivity,” said Michael Connolly, of Community Board 1 in Lower Manhattan, as he was given a tour on Wednesday by Steven Plate, the director of World Trade Center construction for the Port Authority. “The desire of the people who live and work here was to be able to get across the site from east to west.” That will now be possible.

Mr. Connolly said the opening of another access route to the memorial would help relieve pedestrian congestion along Church Street, where large crowds surge at times. “It will make an enormous difference,” he said.

Much of Cortlandt Street, including Radio Row, disappeared in the 1960s when the Port Authority condemned 12 blocks, from Liberty to Vesey Street, and from Church to West Street, for the construction of the twin towers.

After they were destroyed in 2001, the authority planned to recreate Cortlandt as a glassed-in galleria. This idea was strongly opposed by the administration of Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg. Amanda M. Burden, the chairwoman of the City Planning Commission, and Vishaan Chakrabarti, the director of the Manhattan planning office, spoke emphatically in 2004 about the need to restore real streets through the site.

This week, Ms. Burden said: “I think the final design, which took a very long time, is intricate, welcoming yet elegant, and leads one gracefully from Church to the memorial plaza while integrating the two street-level facades of towers three and four. I am very eager to see what it looks like and if the design, as I left it, was realized.”

Mr. Chakrabarti also expressed gratification. “To me, the most thrilling aspect of the site is how the streets are reknitting it back into New York City,” he said this week.
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Old August 2nd, 2014, 06:39 PM   #5495
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The bollards would look better if they had lights in them, at least at night. But it doesn't appear they have lights.
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Old August 2nd, 2014, 07:07 PM   #5496
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What happened with the trees in Cortlandt way?
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Old August 4th, 2014, 09:03 PM   #5497
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What happened with the trees in Cortlandt way?
They haven't been planted yet because the temporary fence runs over their soil.
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Old August 4th, 2014, 10:41 PM   #5498
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Old August 5th, 2014, 12:22 AM   #5499
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Great to see more areas open up around the WTC.
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