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Old December 17th, 2008, 09:26 PM   #61
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20-FT. WALL HOLDS UP TOWER 4



December 16, 2008

WHEN the Port Au thority and Larry Silverstein announced last week's arbitration decision involving World Trade Center construction, the big news was the $50 million in penalties the PA must pay Silverstein over delays in turning the sites over.

What matters more to the public, however, is the impact on Tower 4 - the first of three skyscrapers that Silverstein is to build at Ground Zero.

After all, there's still a World Trade Center to rebuild - to some extent irrespective of the financial meltdown and a widely predicted lack of demand for new office space.

Tower 4 is the smallest of the new structures, but it's still a massive, $1 billion-plus project with 64 floors with 1.8 million square feet of office space.

Even ardent enthusiasts of getting all the towers up as soon as possible recognize that the PA and Silverstein might have to recalibrate the time frame for sites 2 and 3.

But the Fumihiko Maki-designed Tower 4 is another story. The PA has committed to leasing one-third of its 1.8 million square feet to use as its headquarters.

Silverstein also has an option "to require" the city to lease 600,000 square feet more.

With so much going for it, New Yorkers expect to see it rising skyward by the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attack.

But a wall the PA put up to shore up the earth beneath the No. 1 train subway line box stands on the western side of the Tower 4 site - causing the arbitrators to say the PA did not deliver the site to Silverstein "in construction-ready condition" by a deadline earlier this year.

Sources familiar with the project say the wall "impedes the footings and foundation" on the Greenwich Street side. Until the PA can get rid of the wall, it will potentially have a serious impact on the tower's completion date.


"The footings and foundation are basically done except for where the wall is," said a source familiar with the project.


"If Silverstein could go full-bore, it would probably be done in 2012. If they dismantle the wall fairly soon - like next spring - they might be able to accelerate things and still make the deadline.

"But if it takes longer, who knows?"

Silverstein reps declined to comment. PA spokesman Steve Sigmund said, "There is ongoing construction on the Tower 4 foundation and the wall is not an impediment to that construction.

"The two portions of the retaining wall that need issues resolved make up about 20 to 25 feet of the approximately 200-foot wall. We are working with Silverstein on how to resolve the issues on these parts of the wall to support the foundation footings."
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Old December 18th, 2008, 04:58 PM   #62
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ooo woopy do

of people dont know what wall it is, here it is..


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Old December 18th, 2008, 05:37 PM   #63
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what the hell was they thinking put that wall up there. that just looks lazy as hell.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 07:48 PM   #64
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If it's in the way, it's in the way and a problem. Nothing trivial about it, just a small piece of the wall can hold up the $1 billion building.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 07:57 PM   #65
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If it's in the way, it's in the way and a problem. Nothing trivial about it, just a small piece of the wall can hold up the $1 billion building.
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Old December 19th, 2008, 08:02 AM   #66
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Yeah I didn't get it either. The walls in the way because thats where the tower is going. It means they haven't removed all the dirt the wall is holding up and that's the problem.
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Old December 20th, 2008, 04:24 PM   #67
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Some new images of tower 4 from wtc.com
Pictures were taken on the 5th of December. The foundations of the core are finished and forms for the first walls are already in place. The foundations for the perimeter columns are also progressing very well. I assume they are ready by now. Within a few weeks this building should start to rise





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Old December 20th, 2008, 04:45 PM   #68
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The progress is amazing on this tower. I wouldn't be surprised if this one overtakes 1WTC by next spring. I wish the webcams had better views of this site.
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Old December 20th, 2008, 08:17 PM   #69
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yeh, a better webcam for tower 2-4 would be nice
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 04:25 AM   #70
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what the hell was they thinking put that wall up there. that just looks lazy as hell.
It was constructed to get the 1 line running again to south ferry. Not sure how many people realize this, but the subway line right now is basically a temporary box constructed from the remnants of the mostly crushed/destroyed tunnel that ran through there before 9/11.It may look sloppy, but it's only because it's not a technique that involves aesthetic concerns. It's strictly what needed to be done when it was done, no frills, but not lazy.

I'm pretty sure the PA thought leaving the braces in was a good idea, or they would be gone. There is very little shoring up that tunnel right now. There is still a lot of work to be done to reconstruct the subway tunnel and station, and the PATH station to its permanent configuration. You can't expect a building's time frame to have higher priority than a tunnel carrying passengers at speed.

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Old December 22nd, 2008, 11:50 PM   #71
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The progress is amazing on this tower. I wouldn't be surprised if this one overtakes 1WTC by next spring. I wish the webcams had better views of this site.
I wish this tower could rise as smooth as it can unlike its unfortunate brother freedom tower, where its growth hormone still hasn't kicked in for it for 7 years.
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Old December 23rd, 2008, 06:06 AM   #72
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It'll be interesting to see how they remove that retaining wall without disrupting service on the 1 line.
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Old January 7th, 2009, 11:11 AM   #73
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Old January 7th, 2009, 12:33 PM   #74
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Good progress. I guess the formwork is just the core of the tower?
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Old January 8th, 2009, 03:58 AM   #75
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As excited as I am about the core developing for tower 4, I can't help but glance over at the future outline of WTC 3... it's going to be just a massive tower.
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Old January 8th, 2009, 07:54 PM   #76
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Its starting to get more exciting now. Ive lost all enthusiasm for 1 WTC now.
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Old January 8th, 2009, 07:56 PM   #77
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Old January 15th, 2009, 07:57 AM   #78
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They've started work on the superstructure.

Way to go, Tower 4 crew! Keep it up!
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Old January 16th, 2009, 10:34 PM   #79
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I 'd like to see more recent pics.
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Awesome, it really taking shape now
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