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Old October 16th, 2012, 10:17 AM   #2021
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No, the last design change was decided around two years ago, no new changes recently..
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Old October 16th, 2012, 01:00 PM   #2022
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I don't get why this crane is needed, plus it seems to be in a bad location.

Why wouldn't the crane on top of the 3WTC core do the steel for that area?

COuld this new crane be involved with the transport center rib install?
based on where it sits, it is to erect the east and north sides.

the building itself is awkward and heavy enough that they need 3 cranes for the steel. Its a radius issue. This is about the heaviest crane that you want to ever erect steel with (speed issue). The fact that they even had to go to it surprising to me.

My guess is that the core doesnt allow for a crane in that area.

No, that would be very unlikely.
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Old October 17th, 2012, 10:32 PM   #2023
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Boom is finally up on the new crane. So it should be able to erect steel next week..
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Old October 19th, 2012, 08:19 AM   #2024
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http://observer.com/2012/10/check-ou...pe-at-the-wtc/

WTC to start construction of retail space

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...Today, retail may be the least obvious part of the redevelopment of Ground Zero, as the memorial bustles with people, the museum awaits completion and two of the four new towers have already taken their place on the skyline. But shopping will still be an important part of the new World Trade Center, just as it was with the old one.

Today, the Port Authority moved closer to realizing every shopaholic’s dream (and really, how many New Yorkers aren’t shopaholics?) by authorizing construction for Cortlandt Way. An above-ground shopping concourse running along between Towers 3 and 4 where Cortlandt Street would be if it continued onto the site, it will serve as an anchor for the retail throughout the site, including the below-ground portions between and within the towers. The new shops are also seen as a catalyst for retail development throughout Lower Manhattan...
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Old October 19th, 2012, 05:29 PM   #2025
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Check Out Cortlandt Way, the New Shopping Street Taking Shape at the WTC



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Until the towers fell, no one particularly loved the World Trade Center. It served as a useful landmark but was otherwise too big, too empty, too cold. Well, except for the underground shopping center, which was one the busiest in the country. Numerous brands had their top-grossing stores at the World Trade Center.

Today, retail may be the least obvious part of the redevelopment of Ground Zero, as the memorial bustles with people, the museum awaits completion and two of the four new towers have already taken their place on the skyline. But shopping will still be an important part of the new World Trade Center, just as it was with the old one.

Today, the Port Authority moved closer to realizing every shopaholic’s dream (and really, how many New Yorkers aren’t shopaholics?) by authorizing construction for Cortlandt Way. An above-ground shopping concourse running along between Towers 3 and 4 where Cortlandt Street would be if it continued onto the site, it will serve as an anchor for the retail throughout the site, including the below-ground portions between and within the towers. The new shops are also seen as a catalyst for retail development throughout Lower Manhattan.

“Cortlandt Way will be a world-class shopping destination for residents of the local neighborhoods and for the millions of visitors who come to the World Trade Center site each year,” Port Authority executive director Pat Foye said in a statement. “It will continue the ongoing restoration of Lower Manhattan’s street life by providing a unique shopping experience in one of the most well-known locations in the world.”

When complete, the project will offer 16,000 square feet of new retail space along Cortlandt Way as well as on parallel Church and Greenwich Streets. It will be operated by Westfield, the Australian-based mall giant that won a contract from the Port for the lucrative retail spaces throughout the site.


WTC Progress

Tower 4 is nearing completion, but the future of Tower 3 remains uncertain as Larry Silverstein still looks for an anchor tenant for the building. As The Commercial Observer recently reported, GroupM is looking at a large enough block of space to get the tower going, but if not, the show must go on.

But because of the complex, interconnected nature of the World Trade Center site, features like the new PATH station and the mall rely on mechanical systems in Towers 2 and 3 to become operational. That is why Mr. Silverstein has promised to build Tower 2 up to street level and Tower 3 up to eight stories. Otherwise, it would hobble the entire site.
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Old October 19th, 2012, 05:46 PM   #2026
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Dey Street wil be as magical as Cortland Way. Just imagine being bewteen Three and the Hub wings, walking over pavered walkways, feeling the breeze of the Hudson and enjoying the cultural activities at the hub's area.

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Old October 19th, 2012, 05:53 PM   #2027
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Dey Street wil be as magical as Cortland Way. Just imagine being bewteen Three and the Hub wings, walking over pavered walkways, feeling the breeze of the Hudson and enjoying the cultural activities at the hub's area.
Truly magical.Imagine it during the holidays.

Amazing rendering.A quick sneak-peek of what will be the most amazing site in the world.

-They're walking past both 3WTC and the amazing and innovative Hub,as they progress towards Greenwhich,they turn right and bam.They have the immense monolith,1WTC,and the uniquely yet amazing designed 2WTC standing 1,350' above the most iconic site in America.They stop in awe and amazement and only have but a few words,"They did it right,they did right."-

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Old October 19th, 2012, 08:28 PM   #2028
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Now it's just waiting for news about this deal:

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GroupM Considers Huge Lease to Anchor 3 WTC

By Daniel Geiger 10/02 6:25pm

"GroupM, the large advertising and media company, is in preliminary negotiations to anchor Three World Trade Center in a deal that would allow construction to begin on the planned 80-story office tower.

The potential lease, which is in early talks several sources said, appears to be the closest yet developer Silverstein Properties has come to realizing construction of the hulking 2.8 million-square-foot tower designed by the Pritzker-winning architect Richard Rodgers.

The lease would be about 550,000 square feet in size, several sources say, a large enough commitment to qualify the project for up to $600 million in public benefits in the form of a mix of equity and loan guarantees from the city, state and Port Authority. That agreement for public financial backing was struck in a 2010 deal between Silverstein and the Port Authority and requires Silverstein to contribute $300 million in equity into the tower, pre-lease at least 400,000 square feet of its space and repay the building’s government backers before extracting any profits.

Silverstein has already moved forward with Four World Trade Center, a roughly two million-square foot-office tower next door that also received a public backstop from the Port Authority as well as hundreds of thousands of square feet of leasing commitments from both the authority and the city – commitments that allowed the building to receive construction financing and proceed with construction..."
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Old October 20th, 2012, 07:40 AM   #2029
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Truly magical.Imagine it during the holidays.

Amazing rendering.A quick sneak-peek of what will be the most amazing site in the world.

-They're walking past both 3WTC and the amazing and innovative Hub,as they progress towards Greenwhich,they turn right and bam.They have the immense monolith,1WTC,and the uniquely yet amazing designed 2WTC standing 1,350' above the most iconic site in America.They stop in awe and amazement and only have but a few words,"They did it right,they did right."-
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Old October 20th, 2012, 08:23 AM   #2030
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So they are still waiting for confirmation right?? They cannot proceed with construction unless the tenant has leased the space
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Old October 20th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #2031
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Old October 22nd, 2012, 05:22 AM   #2032
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Didn't get many pics today



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Old October 23rd, 2012, 11:14 AM   #2033
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 08:45 PM   #2034
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The LTM1500 is gone.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 09:32 PM   #2035
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No, it just moved to the SE corner to erect some heavy steel there.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 10:11 PM   #2036
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^Are you sure? They even put the boom on the launch trailer to haul it away to the yard
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 10:31 PM   #2037
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^Are you sure? They even put the boom on the launch trailer to haul it away to the yard
Indeed they put a part of it on a trailer.. but look at the KPI TV cam from WFC, from there the LTM is clearly visible active on the south-east side..

http://www.video-monitoring.com/cons...itv/silver.htm
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 11:45 PM   #2038
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Wish they would just build 2 wtc first instead. A much nicer building imo.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 11:54 PM   #2039
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Indeed they put a part of it on a trailer.. but look at the KPI TV cam from WFC, from there the LTM is clearly visible active on the south-east side..

http://www.video-monitoring.com/cons...itv/silver.htm
Good eye... I didn't even catch it. That one set up on the SE side is a LTM 1350, about 250 tons smaller then the 1500 that was there
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Old October 24th, 2012, 12:09 AM   #2040
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Wish they would just build 2 wtc first instead. A much nicer building imo.
That one is far too expensive, even as a stump, to build without tenants. Silverstien is in his 80s and wants to see both towers go up in his lifetime. If the rumors about this tower being close to picking up a major tenant that can meet the lease requirements to continue construction, things will move MUCH faster. Just think positive. We all want to see this tower continue construction because regardless of matters with T2, this tower must continue first. In a perfect world they would announce that construction is continuing at this tower and other BIG leases would look at the site. Having a nearly completed, and another strongly growing tower next door to the site you are looking at leasing [2WTC] looks pretty good from an investor's point of view. Also, in the case of both this tower and 2WTC, the complete structure up to street level would take at least a year from completion time once work resumes, more like a year and a half for 3WTC.
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