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Old March 11th, 2013, 05:54 AM   #2361
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yea it looks great but imagine when 2 wtc and 3 wtc rise in there like its unreal lol idk the day 2 wtc starts rising ill be so happy love that tower lol
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Old March 11th, 2013, 08:43 AM   #2362
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Two and Three really will redefine lower Manhattan!
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Old March 11th, 2013, 02:37 PM   #2363
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Old March 12th, 2013, 11:33 PM   #2364
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There are some parallels between the new 3WTC and the original 3WTC (Marriott).

When the original complex was constructed between 1966-75, Yamasaki/Emery Roth and Sons had designed a 20 story building for the hotel. Its foundations were constructed along with the rest of the complex, but due to the recession that New York was in during most of the 1970s, the hotel was shelved, the existing construction capped, and the Yamasaki/Roth design was later rejected by the Port Authority. It was later redesigned by Skidmore, Owings, and Merrill, and when the recession in the city finally ended towards the end of the 70s, construction of the hotel began in 1979 and was completed and opened by July 1981.

You can see the "stump" for the Vista Hotel in this picture.

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Kind of similar to what's happening with the current 3WTC, as both buildings had "stumps" built before they were actually constructed.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 02:20 AM   #2365
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There are some parallels between the new 3WTC and the original 3WTC (Marriott).

When the original complex was constructed between 1966-75, Yamasaki/Emery Roth and Sons had designed a 20 story building for the hotel. Its foundations were constructed along with the rest of the complex, but due to the recession that New York was in during most of the 1970s, the hotel was shelved, the existing construction capped, and the Yamasaki/Roth design was later rejected by the Port Authority. It was later redesigned by Skidmore, Owings, and Merrill, and when the recession in the city finally ended towards the end of the 70s, construction of the hotel began in 1979 and was completed and opened by July 1981.

You can see the "stump" for the Vista Hotel in this picture.



Kind of similar to what's happening with the current 3WTC, as both buildings had "stumps" built before they were actually constructed.
Interesting...I did not know that...thanks for sharing this information!
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Old March 13th, 2013, 02:57 AM   #2366
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Old March 13th, 2013, 06:18 AM   #2367
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Thanks for this information and this picture I never saw before!

I hope it won't be the same for new 3WTC.

So the design have been changed! Was it really different from the Marriott design or not?
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Old March 13th, 2013, 06:24 AM   #2368
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It looked like a tall thin version of the former 4,5,6 WTC if I remember correctly
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Old March 13th, 2013, 05:57 PM   #2369
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Thanks for this information and this picture I never saw before!

I hope it won't be the same for new 3WTC.

So the design have been changed! Was it really different from the Marriott design or not?
The new design was much better than what they were going to put there.

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Old March 13th, 2013, 08:39 PM   #2370
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Right! The "new" design was much better than this original one.
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Old March 16th, 2013, 05:41 AM   #2371
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Gap or not, this looks awesome.

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I particular like the way this image shows how both buildings are towering above the others in their distinctive dark claddings.
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Old March 16th, 2013, 09:59 PM   #2372
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I seem to remember someone saying that construction of this tower would be done using the "core first" method, would they erect steel first then cast concrete after (similar to how 1 and 7WTC were built), or would they cast the concrete core first, then erect steel?
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Old March 18th, 2013, 12:37 AM   #2373
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I seem to remember someone saying that construction of this tower would be done using the "core first" method, would they erect steel first then cast concrete after (similar to how 1 and 7WTC were built), or would they cast the concrete core first, then erect steel?
Core 1st construction is done exactly how it is phrased. The core, which is poured concrete rises 1st followed by the steel. Yes, it is exactly the opposite of how WTC 1 was built. It's actually probably more traditional method of construction because the forms for the core are much less complicated. In most cases, slip forms are used (the same core is just moved up continuously until the shape of the core changes).
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Old March 18th, 2013, 02:13 AM   #2374
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Exactly what is going on at 432PA.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 05:46 AM   #2375
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I seem to remember someone saying that construction of this tower would be done using the "core first" method, would they erect steel first then cast concrete after (similar to how 1 and 7WTC were built), or would they cast the concrete core first, then erect steel?
What do you think 'core first' means?
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Old March 18th, 2013, 06:19 AM   #2376
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I just asked for clarification, no need to be a dick about it.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 06:47 AM   #2377
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Wasn't trying to be a dick, my apologies; you simply answered your own question.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 07:15 AM   #2378
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What section of the spire is being erected lately? I can't actually tell from images the height of it.

Thank you.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 11:08 AM   #2379
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What section of the spire is being erected lately? I can't actually tell from images the height of it.

Thank you.
This isn't the 1WTC thread
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Old March 18th, 2013, 07:30 PM   #2380
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Wasn't trying to be a dick, my apologies; you simply answered your own question.
No worries, 'sall good brah. I probably could have done a better job of wording my question
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