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buildmilehightower · November 29th, 2008, 08:51 PM

I'm curious about 2 things in the photo below; What is the name of the white arch in between WTC2 and WTC3? and what is that blue cubic thing in front of the arch?

But I must say, driving beneath that white arch would be incredible.

kingsc · November 29th, 2008, 08:53 PM

the arch is the transport hub design by Santiago Calatrava. And I don't know what the blue buidling is.

Basincreek · December 1st, 2008, 10:53 AM

The blue cube is a placeholder for the entrance to the museum which is being designed by Snohetta.

Here's what it will look like and where it will be.

buildmilehightower · December 1st, 2008, 08:55 PM

in that last photo, are those two red columns the bottom legs of the former WTC? its got to be. If they are, then they must've been refurbished or they're not from 9.11 at all.

Carlo[NL] · December 1st, 2008, 09:00 PM

those are the two tridents from the twin towers but they actually saved more of them!
They are red because they are a bit rusty and they have no cladding.
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=DRA5HBchWbk

Newcastle Guy · December 2nd, 2008, 06:25 PM

I didn't know whether I liked WTC2 or WTC3 more, but I've decided this one is the bext out of all of them. It'll be a great building when completed.

FIDEL CASTRO · December 3rd, 2008, 05:35 AM

I like this project a lot.

MechAnt · December 10th, 2008, 09:26 AM

That arch thing looks like something Santiago Calatrava would design. Come to think of it, there are more conceptual pics.

www.calatrava.com

It's under current or future projects under WTC Transit Station

There are some concept shots that look amazing

Onn · December 11th, 2008, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo

The Rogers tower hoicks arse in the best way possible. Clearly I'm slightly biased, and live but a mile from his studio in West London, but the effect of cross bracing and the facade overrun is top notch. To be fair, the cluster is out of this world and no mistake.

I actually like the cross bracing, as well. Most skyscrapers built within the last 10 years have been ultra modern, very simplistic. The detail in the facade of 3WTC is definitely going to set the building apart upon completion. Rogers did an excellent job, I think the design is a return to form in some ways. Reminds me a little of the John Hancock in Chicago.

Peloso · December 11th, 2008, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZ-II

November 14th, flickr:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/...4fde0c66_o.jpg

Is this tower to rise exactly on the spot where one of the WTC towers was? Excuse me if this question has been asked already. In this pic and in the others above it looks like there are some steel columns or other strange objects sticking out from those trenchs...

ZZ-II · December 11th, 2008, 07:02 PM

nope, none of the new towers will stand on the footprint of one of the old twins

buildmilehightower · December 11th, 2008, 11:39 PM

only two waterfall memorials will replace the exact twin tower spots.

ZZ-II · January 7th, 2009, 12:10 PM

posted on SSP:

image hosted on flickr

January 7th, 2009, 07:39 PM

Those two waterfalls -- Reflecting Absence -- is no replacement for the Twin Towers.

JACK NAPIER · January 8th, 2009, 05:13 AM

Just saw a sign in the sewerway (I mean subway) today that shows pictures of the memorial surrounded by cobblestones with the names of those who lost their lives on 9/11. I think people can also make a donation and get a stone inscribed with a message of their own. Neat idea, brings some class to a very cold and modern looking park.

kingsc · January 8th, 2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fish

Those two waterfalls -- Reflecting Absence -- is no replacement for the Twin Towers.

I'm sorry you feel that way but thats what your getting.

luci203 · January 8th, 2009, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingsc

I'm sorry you feel that way but thats what your getting.

Building other towers in that place, is like building your house above a grave...

BrooklynNYC · January 9th, 2009, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingsc

I'm sorry you feel that way but thats what your getting.

I don't think that that was fish's point. The earlier post said "replacing." The two waterfalls at the footprints reflect absence. The intention is not to replace the twins but rather to emphasize or remind the viewer of their absence.

I think that fish's point was that "replace" is the wrong word.

January 9th, 2009, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luci203

Building other towers in that place, is like building your house above a grave...

The site where the Twin Towers once stood is not a grave yard.

It seems that the families of the victims have hijacked Lower Manhattan in the same spirit that Osama bin Laden hijacked New York City.

I realize that the Twin Towers will never be rebuilt and I do not wish to direct the topic of this thread in that direction.

I was merely stating an opinion of what I see when the memorial is built.

A true memorial is a steel skeleton of the Twin Towers -- that way we can properly reflect the absence, while honoring the victims.

Try honoring the victims with a hole in the ground in Skyscraper City (that is what New York is, a true skyscraper city).

Nomadd22 · January 9th, 2009, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fish

Those two waterfalls -- Reflecting Absence -- is no replacement for the Twin Towers.

No, the four new towers are a replacement. The waterfalls are a memory of the two towers.

November 29th, 2008, 08:53 PM	#22
kingsc Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 2,573 Likes (Received): 13	the arch is the transport hub design by Santiago Calatrava. And I don't know what the blue buidling is. __________________ Supertalls for all http://www.skyscrapercity.com/group.php?groupid=288 You could be a memeber

December 11th, 2008, 07:02 PM	#31
ZZ-II I love Skyscrapers Join Date: May 2006 Location: Near Ingolstadt in Bavaria Posts: 28,411 Likes (Received): 1076	nope, none of the new towers will stand on the footprint of one of the old twins __________________ Download the most up-to-date list of all Supertalls on this planet here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22508016/To...ary%202013.pdf Last Tower added: Eurasia - Moscow - 309m The Supertall-City-Ranking: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22508016/Su...ary%202013.pdf Last City added: Changzhou Follow me on Twitter: @Minecraft_87 Visit my Photo-Website: www.foto-kotzur.de

January 7th, 2009, 12:10 PM	#33
ZZ-II I love Skyscrapers Join Date: May 2006 Location: Near Ingolstadt in Bavaria Posts: 28,411 Likes (Received): 1076	posted on SSP: image hosted on flickr __________________ Download the most up-to-date list of all Supertalls on this planet here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22508016/To...ary%202013.pdf Last Tower added: Eurasia - Moscow - 309m The Supertall-City-Ranking: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22508016/Su...ary%202013.pdf Last City added: Changzhou Follow me on Twitter: @Minecraft_87 Visit my Photo-Website: www.foto-kotzur.de

January 8th, 2009, 05:13 AM	#35
JACK NAPIER "Think about the future!" Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Gotham City (NYC) Posts: 199 Likes (Received): 0	Just saw a sign in the sewerway (I mean subway) today that shows pictures of the memorial surrounded by cobblestones with the names of those who lost their lives on 9/11. I think people can also make a donation and get a stone inscribed with a message of their own. Neat idea, brings some class to a very cold and modern looking park. __________________ "Gotham City (NYC)... Always brings a smile to my face." :The Joker

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November 29th, 2008, 08:51 PM	#21
buildmilehightower NANI Luis Almeida Cunha Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Posts: 3,417 Likes (Received): 77	I'm curious about 2 things in the photo below; What is the name of the white arch in between WTC2 and WTC3? and what is that blue cubic thing in front of the arch? But I must say, driving beneath that white arch would be incredible.

December 1st, 2008, 10:53 AM	#23
Basincreek Contrary Lite Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tuolumne City, CA Posts: 479 Likes (Received): 1	The blue cube is a placeholder for the entrance to the museum which is being designed by Snohetta. Here's what it will look like and where it will be.

December 1st, 2008, 08:55 PM	#24
buildmilehightower NANI Luis Almeida Cunha Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Posts: 3,417 Likes (Received): 77	in that last photo, are those two red columns the bottom legs of the former WTC? its got to be. If they are, then they must've been refurbished or they're not from 9.11 at all.

December 1st, 2008, 09:00 PM	#25
Carlo[NL] Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 348 Likes (Received): 7	those are the two tridents from the twin towers but they actually saved more of them! They are red because they are a bit rusty and they have no cladding. http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=DRA5HBchWbk

December 2nd, 2008, 06:25 PM	#26
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,956 Likes (Received): 23	I didn't know whether I liked WTC2 or WTC3 more, but I've decided this one is the bext out of all of them. It'll be a great building when completed.

December 3rd, 2008, 05:35 AM	#27
FIDEL CASTRO BANNED Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,829 Likes (Received): 0	I like this project a lot.

December 10th, 2008, 09:26 AM	#28
MechAnt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1 Likes (Received): 0	That arch thing looks like something Santiago Calatrava would design. Come to think of it, there are more conceptual pics. www.calatrava.com It's under current or future projects under WTC Transit Station There are some concept shots that look amazing

December 11th, 2008, 11:39 PM	#32
buildmilehightower NANI Luis Almeida Cunha Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Posts: 3,417 Likes (Received): 77	only two waterfall memorials will replace the exact twin tower spots.

January 7th, 2009, 07:39 PM	#34
fish Guest Posts: n/a Likes (Received):	Those two waterfalls -- Reflecting Absence -- is no replacement for the Twin Towers.