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Old August 10th, 2014, 04:42 PM   #4401
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thats not a bay machine, that a ny crane machine.

wont be assembling any kind of crane with the fixed jib thats on it...


perhaps they will just reconfigure it. after all, bay does not use manitowoc's they use Liebherrs. NY Crane uses manitowoc
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Old August 10th, 2014, 05:33 PM   #4402
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not really.

they have months and months of concrete before you will see any steel.
Well, during those "months and months of concrete" they will probably prep by shipping the steel there and keep it there until they need it. Besides, the current floor they left off at is already done, so it won't take months and months. If all goes to plan with financing, steel should be going up sooner than you think....
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Old August 10th, 2014, 06:21 PM   #4403
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but this is going to be built core-first, correct? The core will stick out a ways above the finished floors.
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Old August 10th, 2014, 06:55 PM   #4404
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Well, during those "months and months of concrete" they will probably prep by shipping the steel there and keep it there until they need it. Besides, the current floor they left off at is already done, so it won't take months and months. If all goes to plan with financing, steel should be going up sooner than you think....
In new york city you do just in time delivery. They will not be storing anything at the site.

Consider this. They need to mobilize and commission the concrete tower crane, mobilize the climbing form system, install concrete pumping equipment and pipe. Then they will need to form and pour many floors of core. After that they need to mobilize the steel erector and their cranes, survey, layout, and install all of the connections to embeds in the core, then they can start erecting steel. I expect at least 7 floors of core ahead of steel, probably 10

Believe me, there is a lot to do.
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Old August 10th, 2014, 06:55 PM   #4405
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but this is going to be built core-first, correct? The core will stick out a ways above the finished floors.
yes. ref 7 bryant park.
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Old August 10th, 2014, 09:44 PM   #4406
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Old August 11th, 2014, 01:18 AM   #4407
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Consider this. They need to mobilize and commission the concrete tower crane, mobilize the climbing form system, install concrete pumping equipment and pipe. Then they will need to form and pour many floors of core. After that they need to mobilize the steel erector and their cranes, survey, layout, and install all of the connections to embeds in the core, then they can start erecting steel. I expect at least 7 floors of core ahead of steel, probably 10
And then the money will be gone.
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Old August 11th, 2014, 02:33 AM   #4408
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so just to be crystal clear this tower is actually rising...its not just all hype?
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Old August 11th, 2014, 02:34 AM   #4409
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Well, based on all the prep and the fact cranes are coming, I'd say yes. As posted on the last page, Larry looks like he will be securing full financing around the beginning of September.
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Old August 11th, 2014, 04:48 AM   #4410
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In new york city you do just in time delivery. They will not be storing anything at the site.

Consider this. They need to mobilize and commission the concrete tower crane, mobilize the climbing form system, install concrete pumping equipment and pipe. Then they will need to form and pour many floors of core. After that they need to mobilize the steel erector and their cranes, survey, layout, and install all of the connections to embeds in the core, then they can start erecting steel. I expect at least 7 floors of core ahead of steel, probably 10

Believe me, there is a lot to do.

Yeah, they will probably deliver the steel whenever they need it but how do you know for certain that won't happen soon? The process you described, except for pouring the core up 7 to 10 floors, that shouldn't take longer than a month or even two months. Besides, they already started steel for the next set of floors, so why wouldn't they continue and finish off those two floors with steel? I don't think Tower 3's core has a steel frame right? It would just be rebar and concrete. If that's the case then the core would have to go up first so is that what you're trying to explain? For Towers 1 & 4 the steel framed core and perimeter rose the same time and the concrete was poured later on. Now I know they started this Tower with the core first but how do you know that the core will continue to rise 7 or 10 floors ahead of perimeter?

For instance,



Towers One & Four construction


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Old August 11th, 2014, 06:17 AM   #4411
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Yeah, they will probably deliver the steel whenever they need it but how do you know for certain that won't happen soon? The process you described, except for pouring the core up 7 to 10 floors, that shouldn't take longer than a month or even two months. Besides, they already started steel for the next set of floors, so why wouldn't they continue and finish off those two floors with steel? I don't think Tower 3's core has a steel frame right? It would just be rebar and concrete. If that's the case then the core would have to go up first so is that what you're trying to explain? For Towers 1 & 4 the steel framed core and perimeter rose the same time and the concrete was poured later on. Now I know they started this Tower with the core first but how do you know that the core will continue to rise 7 or 10 floors ahead of perimeter?

For instance,



Towers One & Four construction

Edit: Nevermind, you answered my question in a response to meh_cd. Thanks.
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Old August 11th, 2014, 04:25 PM   #4412
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Rebar is being lifted up via that crane.
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Old August 11th, 2014, 10:58 PM   #4413
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Old August 12th, 2014, 09:57 PM   #4414
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Okay, I finally have got info on the exact date the Manitowoc will be put into operation on Cortlandt. The date is 8/21. I suppose in the meantime that hydraulic crane currently there will be used to lift materials and assembling the crawler crane.
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Old August 12th, 2014, 11:20 PM   #4415
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Great to see this one back in the U/C section.
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Old August 13th, 2014, 06:14 AM   #4416
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J.P. Morgan looking for space in either the WTC or Hudson Yards, let's hope when they do come to decide that it's in this tower or even 2WTC.

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Old August 13th, 2014, 07:18 AM   #4417
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Just the news all these big companies are seriously looking means a lot of commercial tower development... very exciting times for looking up to the soaring skies in NYC!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old August 13th, 2014, 07:58 AM   #4418
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So Otie, when are we gonna get to see that render you hinted to us awhile back?😉😊
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Old August 13th, 2014, 08:04 AM   #4419
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We have to wait until the 21st? What a bummer. This tower is such a tease. It just plays with our hopes and suspense.
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Old August 13th, 2014, 06:03 PM   #4420
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Yes, watching 3 WTC resume construction is like watching a Korean drama.
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