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Old June 23rd, 2015, 05:30 AM   #5981
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The last crane just arrived on the construction site.

That last crane is NOW ARRIVING on the construction site.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 06:27 AM   #5982
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Took long enough. Geez... The building looks so awkward with the East side core so tall and bare while the rest of the building has its steel skeleton rising.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 03:34 PM   #5983
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Design Changes At 175 Greenwich Street, Aka 3 World Trade Center

"Construction is finally moving ahead at 175 Greenwich Street, aka 3 World Trade Center, which will be the third tallest building in the complex. But with momentum picking up across the entire site, and 200 Greenwich Street set to rise thanks to a redesign by Bjarke Ingels/BIG, 175 Greenwich Street has also seen some design changes, and 3 World Trade Center has now lost its spires in favor of a more streamlined roof."

"The building was conceived as part of the larger World Trade Center master plan, which the new design for 200 Greenwich will also respect. Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners is designing 175 Greenwich, and the firm sent along the following statement"

"The original intention of the masts on 3 WTC was that they would express the structure of the building as it stretched towards the sky. But as the design developed, it became clear that they did not achieve this objective, and did not contribute to the aesthetic impact or functioning of the building. Furthermore, when we reviewed 3 WTC in relation to the new design of 2 WTC, we realized the two buildings complemented each other and the Libeskind Master Plan best without the masts. Therefore, they are not included in the final design."

http://newyorkyimby.com/2015/06/desi...de-center.html
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 03:48 PM   #5984
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Also worth noting from the article that the parapet will be extended to 1170ft.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 04:24 PM   #5985
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Ah, so I was right. It was a decision in which Rogers participated. You can thank BIG for the alterations here as well, then.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 04:28 PM   #5986
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Furthermore, when we reviewed 3 WTC in relation to the new design of 2 WTC, we realized the two buildings complemented each other and the Libeskind Master Plan best without the masts. Therefore, they are not included in the final design."
This is architect-speak for "we cheapened out."
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 04:33 PM   #5987
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This is architect-speak for "we cheapened out."
So the four spires cost more than 100 feet of parapet?
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 04:35 PM   #5988
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 04:53 PM   #5989
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I would just like to give a special thanks to those deeply involved in the alteration of design for the new WTC. Thank you Fox. Thanks a lot Larry. Thanks a lot BIG. And a huge F*U*C*K you to all.
This sight just gets worse by the day now. Almost makes you too sick to want to even follow progress anymore, even after 6 years of following.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 04:54 PM   #5990
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Final nail in the coffin.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 06:57 PM   #5991
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This is architect-speak for "we cheapened out."
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So the four spires cost more than 100 feet of parapet?
Yeah, I have no doubt that the extended parapets will be more expensive than the spires. I have never thought the spires fit the complex particularly well (if this building stood alone, I'd think a little differently) so I tend to agree with the architects here.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 08:28 PM   #5992
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I personally don't care either way on the whole spire issue. It will make the whole site look more uniform and the increased parapet height will make the building appear taller.

It was NOT because they cheaped out...
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 09:18 PM   #5993
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The spires gave it character and individuality that complimented the rest of the complex. Now it's as you say: More uniform.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 09:35 PM   #5994
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Comparable to the Verre and Steinway; in the aesthetic nature of the New York mentality. So much has gone wrong here, that coming to any WTC-related forum brings about feelings of what could have been.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 09:52 PM   #5995
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*drool*

So much pretty cross-bracing. It would have been the perfect sibling to the New York Times building further uptown.

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Furthermore, when we reviewed 3 WTC in relation to the new design of 2 WTC, we realized the two buildings complemented each other and the Libeskind Master Plan best without the masts. Therefore, they are not included in the final design."
If uniformity is so important, then what is that pointy-thing-I-will-not-label doing atop 1WTC?
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Old June 24th, 2015, 12:56 AM   #5996
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The spires gave it character and individuality that complimented the rest of the complex. Now it's as you say: More uniform.
I would feel a bit better if they brought the cross bracing back now that the spires are done with. We can't even get that.
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I'm just sick and disgusted with how this complex has been mutilated time and time again. First with the spire on One World Trade Center. And then 2WTC and now this. It's like they are stripping the cloths off a Holy figure in a decision to decide how to best please corporate masters instead of honoring the intended purpose which is to honor the lost and to bring life in the form of hopeful renaissance. But of course art has lost its integrity in this corporate world...
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Old June 24th, 2015, 02:15 AM   #5998
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The intended purpose of the site is to bring back the lost office space. The only place where the lost should be honored is at the Memorial and Museum.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 02:42 AM   #5999
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The design change has nothing to do with office space or sentimentality but rather to cater to Newscorp/Fox's BIG design. Libeskind's master plan called for 5 unique towers, and here they are mutilating the unique crown of 3 WTC to make it fit it with the rest of the complex. It's a damn shame.


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Old June 24th, 2015, 04:23 AM   #6000
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So we have 1WTC (1370' roof) 2WTC (1340' roof) 3WTC (1170' roof) 4 WTC (977' roof) and 125 G street (1200' roof) in/near this complex and people are still finding a reason to complain?

With the development in midtown this huge super scraper complex will only be one of many focal points in NY, that's crazy.

1170' to the parapet will go with 2WTC much better, don't care that much about the spires although they'd be nice I guess.
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