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Old August 14th, 2016, 11:35 PM   #7801
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Still a pain seeing all the construction lighting on 1 and 4 WTC.
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Old August 15th, 2016, 06:31 AM   #7802
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Old August 15th, 2016, 12:13 PM   #7803
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Old August 16th, 2016, 12:49 AM   #7804
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I like how the Brookfield Place towers, the Goldman Sachs tower and the WTC towers compliment each other.
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Old August 16th, 2016, 11:28 AM   #7805
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I like how the Brookfield Place towers, the Goldman Sachs tower and the WTC towers compliment each other.
I know! The Brookfield Place/WFC towers in my opinion are a little underrated, as they compliment pre war buildings clad in limestone, as well as newer buildings. They complimented both the new and the old WTC!



Great to see 3 WTC also making quick progress in the steel and the cladding! Sorry for using an older image without 3 WTC on it as it appears now.
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Old August 16th, 2016, 04:26 PM   #7806
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Every time I see pics like the 1st one in the last post.. oh wells. And yeah.. they do compliment pre and post 2001
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Old August 16th, 2016, 06:17 PM   #7807
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Every time I see pics like the 1st one in the last post.. oh wells. And yeah.. they do compliment pre and post 2001
Well the World Financial Center brought back a sense of scale to the waterfront. When the original WTC went up it epitomized modernism's habit of not paying any attention to context. Cesar Pelli sort of righted the ship by creating a 'frame' for the towers. Obviously the new WTC pays much more attention to its urban context and Libeskind's plan creates a kind of pyramiding effect that romanticizes the skyline still framed by World Financial Center. One of the nice things about this era is that New York is starting to return back to a gothic-y skyline as opposed to the truncated flat roofs of the middle 20th century.
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Old August 16th, 2016, 09:11 PM   #7808
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Probably addressed somewhere in here, but does the cross bracing on the east and west facades (or as originally designed in the center sections) serve any structural purpose or is it strictly aesthetic?
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Old August 16th, 2016, 09:33 PM   #7809
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It supports the corner floor plates, so yes.
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Old August 16th, 2016, 11:04 PM   #7810
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Old August 16th, 2016, 11:44 PM   #7811
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Old August 17th, 2016, 02:46 AM   #7812
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Love how 3 fills the gap between 1 and 4 from this angle!
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Old August 18th, 2016, 04:07 PM   #7813
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Well the World Financial Center brought back a sense of scale to the waterfront. When the original WTC went up it epitomized modernism's habit of not paying any attention to context. Cesar Pelli sort of righted the ship by creating a 'frame' for the towers. Obviously the new WTC pays much more attention to its urban context and Libeskind's plan creates a kind of pyramiding effect that romanticizes the skyline still framed by World Financial Center. One of the nice things about this era is that New York is starting to return back to a gothic-y skyline as opposed to the truncated flat roofs of the middle 20th century.
The WFC did add balance to the area. In my opinion, the roof on those buildings makes all the difference. The roof/crown areas look like the older buildings of the 30's with the more modern glass below. The winter garden is also critical to give a good look to the area as it provides a gate way for those coming from the ferries or the hudson waterfront walks. With that area integrated into the new WTC the area is regaining some of the flow lost with the massive acreage that the towers took up.

Of course being a kid of the late 70's in Jersey, I loved the twins because of the way they anchored the skyline and always looked so dominant over the JC/eastern jersey areas, but the new flow with streets being opened back up, the connection to WFC and Fulton, etc. is a really nice addition to the environment downtown. The WTC in general has had so much focus on the $ spent (especially the PATH), the value engineering, and other disappointments that too often we ignore that the memorial pools and museum turned out really well (IMO), the city is adding several supertalls the area to rebuild the lower manhattan skyline (remember the calls to not build anything high again in 2001 and 2002) and the flow when this area is complete will really create a vibrant area. I'm not saying everything is perfect, I'd rather still have the twin towers or have gotten Fosters 2WTC (or kept the spires on 3WTC), but considering the massive task and context, there have been a lot of nice additions recently.

Back on topic, I really like the way the cross bracing is turning out to give a little more visually to the site. I do wish they kept the spires, while only 4 small corners the needle aspect of it pointed to buildings like the Chrysler and 70 Pine.
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Old August 19th, 2016, 11:29 AM   #7814
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Old August 19th, 2016, 07:48 PM   #7815
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Old August 19th, 2016, 09:27 PM   #7816
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I think by the end of September the Steel will probably have passed 4 WTC and might even be topped out by then, with it making so much progresss now that the core has been topped out!!!
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Old August 20th, 2016, 02:49 AM   #7817
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That's what I'm most looking forward to now. Hope it turns out well. I don't want them too hidden. The WTC towers are starting to look a little too repetitive. 7, 4, 1 all too similar in the look with the glass. But 3 with the cross bracing gives something different.
i dunno, but i think they should be somewhat similar but i think you're right, the cross bracing gives 3 some flair and is an eye catcher without making the tower look too different than the rest of the complex
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Old August 20th, 2016, 11:55 PM   #7818
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Old August 21st, 2016, 12:34 AM   #7819
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Old August 21st, 2016, 06:44 PM   #7820
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Your pic just reminds me that I can't really judge this tower until the last part of the parapet is put up (and lit). That looks wicked
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