NEW YORK | 3WTC (175 Greenwich Street) | 357m | 1170ft | 80 fl | U/C

[luci203]

Originally Posted by Veseу

It's interesting to compare that scene of construction to how the same plot of land looked in the late '60s.

Big Change. The land reclamation was important. The Twins where next to the river.

[Msradell]

Originally Posted by luci203

Big Change. The land reclamation was important. The Twins where next to the river.

Why do you say the reclamation was important? I personally think the towers belonged next to the river! They also would've done less damage when they fell if there weren't buildings on all sides. Making land in America is an extravagance that is certainly not required.

[luci203]

Originally Posted by Msradell

Why do you say the reclamation was important?

it was an important change to the scenary... did not say if it was good or bad.

but consideryng that a plot for a skyscraper in Lower Manhattan was 50 mil. in the good old days... it was a good investment. (plus, all the filling was made with the sand from the hole of other skyscrapers, why dump-it in the middle of nowhare, miles away?)

[Eric Offereins]

And in addition to that, the waterfront looks a lot better now than in the old pic above.

[Msradell]

Originally Posted by Eric Offereins

And in addition to that, the waterfront looks a lot better now than in the old pic above.

That's just your opinion. In my opinion the harbor was the reason New York developed and is part of New York's history. Destroying parts of it is destroying the heritage of New York.

[kingsc]

^ things are meant to change and sometimes for the better. Most the land for battery park city come from the dirt and rocks excavated from the WTC. And World Financial Center sit on a landfill.

[luci203]

The Harbor was great and all, in a time when people did not have so many cars, and boats where the main transportation to Europe and the rest of the World (we have planes now). It was like an "airport terminal, back in the days"



Now, a harbor would be an extra headache, just imagine the tons of goods that would have to be transported thru Manhattan every day, thousands of trucks, in the not so "relaxed" New York traffic. The land reclamation was good. (you can see in the picture the size of the reclamation)

[CULWULLA]

great shots. love the 30's pic.

[kingsc]

both of those pictures are pretty old lol.

[ZZ-II]

posted by NYguy on SSP:


Excavation is underway at the T3 site, as T4 foundations are constructed next door.


A backhoe breaks rock for footings excavation at the Tower 3 (“T3”) site.


Earth and rock are continually lifted out of the site in large containers.


A worker surveys the site.

[Basincreek]

As that first pic shows they are definitely now putting in the footings for this tower. Looks like all that talk about not building is rather moot. I kinda figured that Silverstein had things all lined up already.

[Nomadd22]

I used to walk along that old elevated highway when it was closed down because it was rotting away. The warehouses were mostly abandoned. I'd say it an improvement today.
Isn't it about time this thread is moved to "Under construction"?

[Ebola]

I think that NYguy also mentioned that it was u/c. If they are cunnrently working on it, I doubt they are talking.

[Basincreek]

I wouldn't put it past the PA to have been so clueless that they didn't even know Silverstein was ready to build and they just assumed he wasn't so they offered the pedestal idea as an alternative.

[kingsc]

tower 3 and 4 are pretty close. I don't think any of them will be that close to tower 1. Thing should start out fast for this building. Since the underground isn't like tower one work wise.

[Basincreek]

Seeing as how they're now building the foundations for this shouldn't the thread be moved?

[kingsc]

I'm sure they'll move it, when you can see more of the core. Like they did with tower 4

[Eric Offereins]

As they are still digging, it is not UC yet.

[Basincreek]

On Earthcam there are a couple concrete forms in place in the footprint. I don't know if they'd poured anything yet though.

[spectre000]

on wirednewyork.com they are reporting the foundation work at the site is not for the core yet, it is the peripheral foundation and footings that support the northside of Cortlandt street above. I think were probably another month or two before this one is truely u/c. But it shouldn't be much longer.