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Old November 17th, 2017, 05:48 PM   #9201
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Does anyone know what all that stuff is on the northern setback
Flooring tile. Look at the opposite setback. It's white.
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Old November 17th, 2017, 06:05 PM   #9202
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Old November 18th, 2017, 09:37 PM   #9203
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Does anyone know anything about interiors?Any shot on how far are they?
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Old November 18th, 2017, 10:23 PM   #9204
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I dont think the interiors are fully decked out on 1 and 4, let alone 3.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 10:33 PM   #9205
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4 should be as Spotify leased the remaining space in the building.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 11:16 PM   #9206
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I think we get too hung up on if these towers are "awesome" enough to represent what was there. It is more than if the new towers are tall enough or we should have expected more in their design. It is the whole site, everything including the memorial spaces with the water features, names ,lighting, the underground museum the plaza. This whole space was thoughtfully conceived and executed. It is a place that for the human experience is not just a financial center.
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Old November 20th, 2017, 09:30 AM   #9207
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Overall, I agree the new WTC really turned out well. Still, to this day I am struggling to grasp the fact that the Oculus and 1 WTC alone cost 7 billion dollars, the whole site probably cost more than 10 billion so far. Why are they so expensive, considering all of the old WTC cost "just" 2.4 billion dollars (adjusted for inflation). I know part of it is due to the stronger concrete and materials used, but surely that can't justify it all? And, back on topic, really glad to see this tower nearing completion, it looks stunning!
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Old November 20th, 2017, 10:08 AM   #9208
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4 should be as Spotify leased the remaining space in the building.
It doesnt seem all the tenants have moved in, considering a good part of the upper portion is still lit by construction lighting at night. I'd rather see darkness than those.
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Old November 20th, 2017, 08:06 PM   #9209
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Overall, I agree the new WTC really turned out well. Still, to this day I am struggling to grasp the fact that the Oculus and 1 WTC alone cost 7 billion dollars, the whole site probably cost more than 10 billion so far. Why are they so expensive, considering all of the old WTC cost "just" 2.4 billion dollars (adjusted for inflation). I know part of it is due to the stronger concrete and materials used, but surely that can't justify it all? And, back on topic, really glad to see this tower nearing completion, it looks stunning!
To be fair, the old WTC was a bunch of grey boxes that were considered boring and ugly when they were built, let alone decades later. It's not like a quadrupling of price has brought only a minor increase in quality. It's a massive upgrade.

Of course, in a perfect world, we'd all still be complaining about how the twin towers are a blight on the NYC skyline because 9/11 would never have happened. But I think given the circumstances, the 10 billion for this project was worth every cent.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 01:17 AM   #9210
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From the distance maybe, but one you was in front of them you could appreciate the elegance of the facade and its fine lines. That happens also with many skyscrapers built in the 60s and 70s.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 02:04 AM   #9211
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I don’t mean to continue this debate, but speaking of twins, I always thought that a twin of 1 WTC for 2 WTC would look fantastic, but that’s just my opinion. I just hope they go back to Foster’s Design for 2 WTC.

Anyways, 3 WTC is looking fantastic. Hopefully we’re getting close to opening.
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It doesnt seem all the tenants have moved in, considering a good part of the upper portion is still lit by construction lighting at night. I'd rather see darkness than those.
As per today, McKinsey is leasing about 200K square feet of space!

Slowly and steadily Silverstein is filling up his towers.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 06:40 AM   #9213
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They need to put up the 4 antennas. It will give the tower some balls.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 03:09 PM   #9214
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Old November 22nd, 2017, 11:16 AM   #9215
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I am new to this forum. But this building will not be remembered in the future for its design or remembrance. Only in its immediate sphere. Speaking from Sydney afar.
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Old November 23rd, 2017, 03:32 PM   #9216
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Old November 23rd, 2017, 07:58 PM   #9217
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Well, 1 WTC is the centerpiece of the complex. It doesn't help that all of the towers have gone through design changes.

The twins were the same, much to a lesser extent. No one remembers the other small buildings that made up the original WTC. Some will say 7 WTC but that's only because of the way the building went down on 9/11.
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Well, 1 WTC is the centerpiece of the complex. It doesn't help that all of the towers have gone through design changes.

The twins were the same, much to a lesser extent. No one remembers the other small buildings that made up the original WTC. Some will say 7 WTC but that's only because of the way the building went down on 9/11.
No one remembers the other buildings? Such a straw-man argument. Besides the old 7 WTC was at least unique looking for the city....something that the new complex in part lacks.
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Old November 24th, 2017, 03:13 AM   #9219
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No one remembers the other buildings? Such a straw-man argument. Besides the old 7 WTC was at least unique looking for the city....something that the new complex in part lacks.
Look, I know your sentiments and all for the original WTC. I see all your posts about them, but no can give a damn about 4, 5 or 6 WTC. The twins 'were' what people referred to as the WTC.

At least with the new buildings they can atleast have individualities. 1 WTC remains the centerpiece of the site.
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I mean, yes its true, all of my friends didn't even know the original WTC had 7 buildings, they always assumed there were just 2. You had to see the WTC or live in New York to realize there were more than just the towers to the complex. Even today, most people I know thought the new WTC consists just of 1 WTC. Let's face it, the average person will not really know of smaller buildings, only the tallest ones of the bunch (so 1 WTC, ESB and Chrysler due to its history).
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