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ZZ-II · August 4th, 2009, 09:11 PM

if that happens the "new WTC" will be the biggest disgrace in the history of NYC

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NgelM · August 4th, 2009, 09:46 PM

I don't understand one thing, the 1WTC and the 3WTC are being built at the same time? If is not a problem, somebody explain me

PD: sorry for my misspelings, Im working in my English

meh_cd · August 5th, 2009, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NgelM

I don't understand one thing, the 1WTC and the 3WTC are being built at the same time? If is not a problem, somebody explain me

PD: sorry for my misspelings, Im working in my English

1 WTC is being built by the Port Authority. 2, 3, and 4 WTC are supposed to be built by Silverstein Properties. Currently only Towers 1 and 4 are under construction, with Towers 2 and 3 in jeopardy of being put on hold or canceled completely. If they are put on hold or if retail "stumps" are built in place with the intention to finish the towers later, the odds are that they will never be finished.

polojr · August 5th, 2009, 01:54 PM

Congratulations to all newyorkers. These buildings are an example of hope in the human race.

Msradell · August 5th, 2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by polojr

Congratulations to all newyorkers. These buildings are an example of hope in the human race.

What kind of hope? Hope (knowledge) that politics can screw up anything good? This project has been the biggest cluster F__K in the history of urban planning. There are so many government agencies involved that nothing can ever happen when it's supposed to. If this project was being done by private industry it would be very close to completion by this time.

Ebola · August 5th, 2009, 02:50 PM

If SP were the only ones building it, it would be close to completed by now. With everyone involved, there's always a problem.

NgelM · August 5th, 2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meh_cd

1 WTC is being built by the Port Authority. 2, 3, and 4 WTC are supposed to be built by Silverstein Properties. Currently only Towers 1 and 4 are under construction, with Towers 2 and 3 in jeopardy of being put on hold or canceled completely. If they are put on hold or if retail "stumps" are built in place with the intention to finish the towers later, the odds are that they will never be finished.

Thanks! and why the Towers 2 and 3 are in jeopardy of being put on hold or canceled?

Nomadd22 · August 5th, 2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Msradell

What kind of hope? Hope (knowledge) that politics can screw up anything good? This project has been the biggest cluster F__K in the history of urban planning. There are so many government agencies involved that nothing can ever happen when it's supposed to. If this project was being done by private industry it would be very close to completion by this time.

It gives hope to chronic complainers who are always on the lookout for something to whine about.

meh_cd · August 5th, 2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NgelM

Thanks! and why the Towers 2 and 3 are in jeopardy of being put on hold or canceled?

No one wants to lend any money due to the recession/credit crisis.

Jay · August 5th, 2009, 07:55 PM

It would be much more logical to just wait out the economy crisis and put the towers on hold rather than cancelling them or building a mall. The office space at the site is much to precious to waste and will be needed sometimes in the future.

New York City is growing

JohnFlint1985 · August 5th, 2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ZZ-II

if that happens the "new WTC" will be the biggest disgrace in the history of NYC

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we discuss the same topic in depth here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=869912&page=6

JohnFlint1985 · August 5th, 2009, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NgelM

I don't understand one thing, the 1WTC and the 3WTC are being built at the same time? If is not a problem, somebody explain me

PD: sorry for my misspelings, Im working in my English

correction - towers 1 and 4 are being built and towers 2 and 3 are in question

JohnFlint1985 · August 5th, 2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NgelM

Thanks! and why the Towers 2 and 3 are in jeopardy of being put on hold or canceled?

no private financing

bajanssen · August 6th, 2009, 12:36 PM

towers 2 and 3 where the two most beautiful towers in the entire project. Hopefully the economy gets back on the move again so SP can shut up government idiots who have no education what so ever but get to deside about everything!

KaZantiP · October 11th, 2009, 02:14 PM

any updates???

It s not hold???

spectre000 · February 19th, 2010, 01:31 AM

An interesting twist in the PA vs Silverstein fight. Tower 2 is out, Tower 3 is in...

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...FREE/100219888

February 18, 2010 3:42 PM

Silverstein offers more money for Ground Zero site
by Theresa Agovino

Developer's overture to put more of his own skin in the game is latest twist in negotiations to end longtime financing fight with Port Authority of New York & New Jersey.

Developer Larry Silverstein is offering a host of proposals, including ideas that put more of his own money at risk, to end his battle with the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey over financing two of his towers at Ground Zero, sources say.

However, it’s questionable that Mr. Silverstein’s moves will actually bring the two sides closer, as sources familiar with the Port say the agency regards the proposal as “smoke and mirrors” that don’t really change the underlying financing of the deal.

To make financing two of his three planned towers more palatable, Mr. Silverstein says he'll pony up between $150 million and $250 million to fund the second tower instead of just the $50 million he had originally offered. He has also offered to allocate the insurance money and proceeds from all of his Liberty bonds to build the two towers. The proceeds were originally supposed to be divided over the three towers.

Additionally, in a move that will save about $262 million, Mr. Silverstein will build what is referred to in various development plans as Tower 3, instead of his more expensive Tower 2.

Dancing Banana · February 19th, 2010, 02:11 AM

so tower 2 wont be built? if so that sucks... tower 2 is by far the best wtc tower imo!

SJM · February 19th, 2010, 02:24 AM

Tower 2 was the coolest design i've ever seen, such a shame.

kingsc · February 19th, 2010, 03:12 AM

silverstein's a dumb ass throw it all away and build another tower 1 if you going kill off tower 2 shit build another tower 4 for all I care. I'm just keep track of towers 1 and 4 for now on.

Desparye · February 19th, 2010, 03:50 AM

That... seriously ruined ground zero. Tower 2 was probably going to be my favorite tower of New York...

August 4th, 2009, 09:11 PM	#101
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August 4th, 2009, 09:46 PM	#102
NgelM Two camels in a tiny car Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Area Metropolitana de Valencia Posts: 2,816 Likes (Received): 28	I don't understand one thing, the 1WTC and the 3WTC are being built at the same time? If is not a problem, somebody explain me PD: sorry for my misspelings, Im working in my English __________________ Si te tumba el mar abierto y el odio te ciega, yo estaré ahí con balsas y un millón de velas. La Vida Bohéme. V a l e n c i a "Valencia es infinita" Daniel De Sousa

August 5th, 2009, 01:54 PM	#104
polojr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 89 Likes (Received): 0	Congratulations to all newyorkers. These buildings are an example of hope in the human race. __________________ The Urban World Forum global forum for planning and development http://www.lovingcity.com · Foro de España

August 6th, 2009, 12:36 PM	#114
bajanssen Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tilburg aka Kruikenstad Posts: 173 Likes (Received): 2	towers 2 and 3 where the two most beautiful towers in the entire project. Hopefully the economy gets back on the move again so SP can shut up government idiots who have no education what so ever but get to deside about everything! __________________ Witte wè ge kunt?? Niks kunde, dè kunde!

February 19th, 2010, 02:11 AM	#117
Dancing Banana Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Zürich Posts: 369 Likes (Received): 6	so tower 2 wont be built? if so that sucks... tower 2 is by far the best wtc tower imo! __________________ ONE WORLD one dancing banana

August 5th, 2009, 02:50 PM	#106
Ebola BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 1,651 Likes (Received): 0	If SP were the only ones building it, it would be close to completed by now. With everyone involved, there's always a problem.

August 5th, 2009, 07:55 PM	#110
Jay Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buenos Aires Posts: 2,010 Likes (Received): 27	It would be much more logical to just wait out the economy crisis and put the towers on hold rather than cancelling them or building a mall. The office space at the site is much to precious to waste and will be needed sometimes in the future. New York City is growing

October 11th, 2009, 02:14 PM	#115
KaZantiP Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Харьковчанин Posts: 593 Likes (Received): 1	any updates??? It s not hold???

February 19th, 2010, 01:31 AM	#116
spectre000 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Paul Posts: 5,009 Likes (Received): 127	An interesting twist in the PA vs Silverstein fight. Tower 2 is out, Tower 3 is in... http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...FREE/100219888 February 18, 2010 3:42 PM Silverstein offers more money for Ground Zero site by Theresa Agovino Developer's overture to put more of his own skin in the game is latest twist in negotiations to end longtime financing fight with Port Authority of New York & New Jersey. Developer Larry Silverstein is offering a host of proposals, including ideas that put more of his own money at risk, to end his battle with the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey over financing two of his towers at Ground Zero, sources say. However, it’s questionable that Mr. Silverstein’s moves will actually bring the two sides closer, as sources familiar with the Port say the agency regards the proposal as “smoke and mirrors” that don’t really change the underlying financing of the deal. To make financing two of his three planned towers more palatable, Mr. Silverstein says he'll pony up between $150 million and $250 million to fund the second tower instead of just the $50 million he had originally offered. He has also offered to allocate the insurance money and proceeds from all of his Liberty bonds to build the two towers. The proceeds were originally supposed to be divided over the three towers. Additionally, in a move that will save about $262 million, Mr. Silverstein will build what is referred to in various development plans as Tower 3, instead of his more expensive Tower 2.

February 19th, 2010, 02:24 AM	#118
SJM Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,234 Likes (Received): 2	Tower 2 was the coolest design i've ever seen, such a shame.

February 19th, 2010, 03:12 AM	#119
kingsc Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 2,564 Likes (Received): 2	silverstein's a dumb ass throw it all away and build another tower 1 if you going kill off tower 2 shit build another tower 4 for all I care. I'm just keep track of towers 1 and 4 for now on. __________________ Supertalls for all http://www.skyscrapercity.com/group.php?groupid=288 You could be a memeber

February 19th, 2010, 03:50 AM	#120
Desparye Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 162 Likes (Received): 2	That... seriously ruined ground zero. Tower 2 was probably going to be my favorite tower of New York...

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