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Old November 13th, 2012, 04:59 AM   #2241
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Why is this still under "proposed"? Not only has it been accepted, it is under construction.
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Old November 13th, 2012, 05:05 AM   #2242
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Not really. Construction isn't continuing beyond what's already been built, the basement shares infrastructure with the PATH hub and the rest of the WTC site, so that needed to be constructed, but the tower itself will not be progressing for some time.

They've already capped off the core of the building, and fenced off the site. There's some more work to be done to prepare it for slumber, but otherwise, this building isn't considered to be "under construction" anymore.
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Old November 13th, 2012, 05:59 AM   #2243
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Why is this still under "proposed"? Not only has it been accepted, it is under construction.
Becuase we probably won't be seeing the steel go up for a couple to several years. They're covering it for a reason mate.
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Old November 13th, 2012, 07:29 PM   #2244
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Actually it's "On hold"
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Old November 15th, 2012, 05:36 AM   #2245
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Actually it's "On hold"
Actually it is 'proposed' it is possible that they will never build the rest of the building, although very unlikely, it is still possible.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 05:43 AM   #2246
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Actually it is 'proposed' it is possible that they will never build the rest of the building, although very unlikely, it is still possible.
Work has already been done on the building, for now its haulted. Therefore it is on hold.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 06:00 AM   #2247
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Work has already been done on the building, for now its haulted. Therefore it is on hold.
Agreed, 'proposed' means that there were plans and probably (usually) renderings for the project but no material work was ever done. Since groundwork and foundations have been made and the project will now be halted it is clearly 'on hold'
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Old November 17th, 2012, 06:23 PM   #2248
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You're right, this is on hold. Just as for example the Pentominium.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 06:56 AM   #2249
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I found this great (apparently incomplete) rendering by StR that shows the old Two World Trade Center (South Tower), next to Foster's 2WTC.

[IMG]http://i48.************/t8qdfm.jpg[/IMG]
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Old November 18th, 2012, 01:38 PM   #2250
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Thanks for posting, that is an incredible render, though I find it something of a humiliation that the new 2WTC is shorter than the old one. Though its design is a masterpiece and it fits in very well with the other WTC buildings. If only it would be a bit taller though ........
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Old November 18th, 2012, 04:34 PM   #2251
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Same width, pretty much, but it still looks so tiny compared to the old one.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 04:41 PM   #2252
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Thanks for posting, that is an incredible render, though I find it something of a humiliation that the new 2WTC is shorter than the old one. Though its design is a masterpiece and it fits in very well with the other WTC buildings. If only it would be a bit taller though ........
i agree i wish the roof of it were the same as the old with the spire reaching higher but at least the height to the spire is just over 10 ft shorter, but its design is amazing lol
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Old November 18th, 2012, 11:25 PM   #2253
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Same width, pretty much, but it still looks so tiny compared to the old one.
If they're the same width and nearly the same height how does it look tiny? I agree it could stand to be a little taller but that's not gonna happen.
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Old November 19th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #2254
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I think the taper makes it look a bit small. I don't know how accurate the scale of the render is, but Foster's 2WTC appears to be slightly smaller, not by much though (about 5% on each side).

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Old November 19th, 2012, 01:05 AM   #2255
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I though tey were the same height, only the old tower had a slightly higher roof height?
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Old November 19th, 2012, 01:31 AM   #2256
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Well, the roof height is 1270' (387m), and the spire takes it to a total height of 1359' (414m). For comparison, the roof height of the old 2WTC was 1362' (415m), and its outdoor observation deck stood at a height of 1377' (420m). They are close, but not exact.

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Old November 20th, 2012, 10:05 AM   #2257
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from http://www.wtc.com/news/c/construction-updates

WTC Construction Update, November 2012


2 World Trade Center

Current work at 2 World Trade Center includes completing the street level superstructure steel and concrete. Installation of the building mechanical systems continues throughout the B1-B4 basement levels. Installations of mesh rebar for the east and north sidewalks have commenced, and elevator divider beams are being installed in the center core on B1. Low voltage raceways, conduits and cables are currently being installed and steel and concrete deliveries continue to arrive inside the Vesey Street entrance. The building is expected to be completed to street level by December 2012.
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Old November 20th, 2012, 04:03 PM   #2258
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Actually it is 'proposed' it is possible that they will never build the rest of the building, although very unlikely, it is still possible.
Definitely not. New York, as tHe financial capital of the world, has an unending need for new space. It's good to be king!
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Old November 20th, 2012, 04:10 PM   #2259
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That's true. Especially considering how old most of the office towers in NYC are. Larry will sooner or later find a tenant interested in modern top class office space
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Old November 21st, 2012, 03:06 AM   #2260
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Well, the roof height is 1270' (387m), and the spire takes it to a total height of 1359' (414m). For comparison, the roof height of the old 2WTC was 1362' (415m), and its outdoor observation deck stood at a height of 1377' (420m). They are close, but not exact.
Wow, I had never heard 2WTC's observatory was above the roof height, but you are obviously a reliable source . So why wasn't its official height 1,377? Also, would that have made it taller than 1WTC?
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