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Old April 24th, 2015, 09:54 PM   #3581
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I think with the underground floors and foundations in place, the overall shape cannot change much. The base is ifferent story though.
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Old April 24th, 2015, 10:18 PM   #3582
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I wish articles would stop trying to make a big deal out of the base possibly changing, by writing nonsense such as "dramatically change".

They CAN'T change the building "dramatically"
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Old April 24th, 2015, 11:49 PM   #3583
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I wouldn't be so sure. We don't have the data about how the existing foundation would perform with a changed design, so we can't assess the feasibility of major changes. Not even a top class engineer could tell you to what extent the design can change without extensive computer stress modelling. Only engineering research can tell, whether the design is unchangable, or whether it could change so much, that it would bare nearly no resemblance to the 2WTC we know
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Old April 25th, 2015, 12:14 AM   #3584
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They want reasonable studio space in the base, so there isn't a reason for them to change the upper portion of the tower.

There many unique features this tower is suppose have, with many having to do with it reflecting light and such. Don't let them mess this building up, Silverstein.
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Old April 25th, 2015, 12:19 AM   #3585
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Yes, technically they have no reason, although if Murdoch would want to change the design to his prefference I think that might be reason enough for him. I agree that the current design is wonderrful and the only changes I would welcome would be a height increase and the solidification of the top of the uppermost diamond - otherwise leave the tower as it is, because Foster designed a phenomenal masterpiece over here
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Old April 25th, 2015, 12:51 AM   #3586
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Whoa! I am NUMB!!!!

I can seriously wait for another anchor even if it could take another couple of years.
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Old April 25th, 2015, 02:04 AM   #3587
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I'm somewhere between extremely curious and extremely excited to think that 2WTC might get a touch of BIG. I really really cannot wait to see the end result if the deal goes through.
That Murdoch sounds like a control freak wanting to bring his own architect when Foster could very well come up with those changes himself.

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Old April 25th, 2015, 02:13 AM   #3588
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Clearly, News Corp is very interested in this site since it could build whatever it wants at the HY, and yet it's engaging in feasibility studies here.
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Old April 25th, 2015, 02:29 AM   #3589
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BIG has churned out some interesting supertall designs. Even if they tweaked the exterior design I doubt it would be anything banal.




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Old April 25th, 2015, 02:44 AM   #3590
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It's unfortunate I dislike those designs so much...
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Old April 25th, 2015, 02:51 AM   #3591
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I like BIG, I like Bjarke Ingles, I LOVE Foster's design for Tower two and this news about big coming on board makes me kinda nervous about this "tower"
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Old April 25th, 2015, 03:32 AM   #3592
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Clearly, News Corp is very interested in this site since it could build whatever it wants at the HY, and yet it's engaging in feasibility studies here.
Yea it seemed like they are really serious about that move, so much so that they already have an architect in mind. Who know what can happen but I have a hard time seeing this deal fall through. Besides this is the best chance Silverstein has got so far to see the tower built, I doubt he'll pass on it.
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Old April 25th, 2015, 03:42 AM   #3593
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The WSJ article said that the WTC is cheaper than the HY. I assume News Corp could get a good deal from Related, which I am sure wants to clean up the horrible McDonald's site before it markets its condos. I wonder what the story is.

In any event, I hope that News Corp doesn't stay on 6th.
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Old April 25th, 2015, 10:00 AM   #3594
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I'm torn. At least Ingles favors truly bold designs, and the tower will remain at least around its currently discussed height. But losing those diamond roof formations is a really tough pill... if they had decided to build smaller like it was mentioned in another post I would have been livid. Ingles does seem indeed to build "BIG" and bold, to pardon the pun, however... if he does change the top but comes up with something bold and daring, maybe it will be worth it. Getting this tower built first and foremost has to be the priority, and the second priority is making it visionary and bold. It seems this will do both, but like I said the losing the diamonds, a powerful and poignant formation, isn't something I'm thrilled about at all. Hopefully the decision by Murdoch won't take too long, and we'll know very soon what will be going down, or not, at the WTC2 site.
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Old April 25th, 2015, 01:25 PM   #3595
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I'm not saying the comparison is 100% accurate, but for a moment just imagine them delaying the moon landing for ten years fighting over some $$$, then deciding to build a space station in low Earth orbit instead. Obvious hyperbole to some, but to me it properly describes how aggravating the history of the 2WTC rebuild is to me, and I can't be the only one.
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Old April 25th, 2015, 07:08 PM   #3596
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I'm not saying the comparison is 100% accurate, but for a moment just imagine them delaying the moon landing for ten years fighting over some $$$, then deciding to build a space station in low Earth orbit instead. Obvious hyperbole to some, but to me it properly describes how aggravating the history of the 2WTC rebuild is to me, and I can't be the only one.
+ 1, although we don't know if it will be a space station yet, we could still get the full moon landing even though I'm starting to have my doubts.
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Old April 26th, 2015, 03:31 AM   #3597
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After being really numb about the prospect of an architect change, I have to admit that Bjark is really an interesting and intriguing choice & I will have to reserve judgement until more details are released. I must say, he's a fine alternative to switch to.

First... It's great news that News Corp is planning to set down roots at the WTC site and finally we may see a completed WTC complex way before I had ever imagined & Ingels may come up with something spectacular.

It's quite possible, Foster still may find a work around modifying the design of the base to fit News Corp's needs which would be the best case scenario for me. If Bjarke Ingels fails to figure a way to design an acceptable base for a tv studio for the site with the already finished foundations, then News Corp could always decide to call an audible and decide to foster a joint venture with either Tishman or Related to deliver a Bjarke Ingels Supertall at the Hudson Yards despite reports saying they had already crossed out the Hudson Yards!! It seems Mr. Ingels is Murdoch's preferred architect & where else will they have an opportunity to build a tower from scratch to fit their needs other than the Yards.

There are still many large companies still out there looking to quite possibly anchor a new tower so either way, I'm not too concerned especially when it comes to the fate of 2 WTC.

So whatever News Corp decides, it has the makings of a win win situation asfaic.

We could get an amazing Bjark Ingles Supertall and a completed site at the WTC

or

We get both a Bjark Ingels supertall in the a Hudson Yards and eventually Fosters iconic diamond supertall just as long as News Corp decides not to stay put where they are currently. From the sound of things I really don't think it's even an alternative for Murdock cuz dude is just itching to put all of his companies under one house.

Too many unknowns at this point but to hear News Corp flirting to co-develop a new supertall tower is just amazing news.
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Old April 26th, 2015, 05:49 AM   #3598
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They have that large rear podium on the building which looks like it has a lot of open floor space, how hard could it be to turn those into studios?
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I agree, VG. While I can see Tishman having a high asking price, I doubt that Related does at 50 HY. I'd like to see a BIG tower there.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 07:17 PM   #3600
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I'm a fan of BIG, but I really don't think skyscraper design is their forte. I'd much rather they just stick with the Foster Design.
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