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Old May 4th, 2015, 12:25 AM   #3641
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Now they will be building 3WTC very long and unfortunately the most absent tower, 2WTC, we'll see finished maybe in 2025
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Old May 4th, 2015, 12:48 AM   #3642
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Now they will be building 3WTC very long and unfortunately the most absent tower, 2WTC, we'll see finished maybe in 2025
Huh? 3WTC is moving quite quickly and 2WTC will hopefully be opened by the end of the decade...

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There's a 50-50 possibility that Bjarke ruins the tower or he makes a good design, but why taking the risk? Foster's design is beautiful, the plot is ready for it, it has been revised and fixed several times for around 10 years, etc. Making a new design would just be an unnecessary waste of money and time, which may or may not look good with the rest of the complex.

It's a shame really that they are doing this. 1WTC and 2WTC are supposed to be the real icons of the whole complex. I really wouldn't have cared if they changed 3WTC or 4WTC, but changing 2WTC, specially when the design is already great is a real shame.

EDIT: from past knowledge about Bjarke Ingels, I'm pretty sure building his design would be much more expensive than Fosters.
I don't get it either, I think they're just retarded honestly...
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Old May 4th, 2015, 02:58 AM   #3643
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EDIT: from past knowledge about Bjarke Ingels, I'm pretty sure building his design would be much more expensive than Fosters.
And honestly, his 'pyramid' project is turning out to be a monstrosity.
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Old May 4th, 2015, 06:07 AM   #3644
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And honestly, his 'pyramid' project is turning out to be a monstrosity.
To each their own I suppose but I would argue that the pyramid is the best "high rise UC in NYC today. That said it is the only project I like by Bjarke.
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Old May 4th, 2015, 08:10 PM   #3645
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After being really numb about the prospect of an architect change, I have to admit that Bjark is really an interesting and intriguing choice & I will have to reserve judgement until more details are released. I must say, he's a fine alternative to switch to.

First... It's great news that News Corp is planning to set down roots at the WTC site and finally we may see a completed WTC complex way before I had ever imagined & Ingels may come up with something spectacular.

It's quite possible, Foster still may find a work around modifying the design of the base to fit News Corp's needs which would be the best case scenario for me. If Bjarke Ingels fails to figure a way to design an acceptable base for a tv studio for the site with the already finished foundations, then News Corp could always decide to call an audible and decide to foster a joint venture with either Tishman or Related to deliver a Bjarke Ingels Supertall at the Hudson Yards despite reports saying they had already crossed out the Hudson Yards!! It seems Mr. Ingels is Murdoch's preferred architect & where else will they have an opportunity to build a tower from scratch to fit their needs other than the Yards.

There are still many large companies still out there looking to quite possibly anchor a new tower so either way, I'm not too concerned especially when it comes to the fate of 2 WTC.

So whatever News Corp decides, it has the makings of a win win situation asfaic.

We could get an amazing Bjark Ingles Supertall and a completed site at the WTC

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We get both a Bjark Ingels supertall in the a Hudson Yards and eventually Fosters iconic diamond supertall just as long as News Corp decides not to stay put where they are currently. From the sound of things I really don't think it's even an alternative for Murdock cuz dude is just itching to put all of his companies under one house.

Too many unknowns at this point but to hear News Corp flirting to co-develop a new supertall tower is just amazing news.
In my understanding the #2 was the most interesting out of 5 towers on the site. If they will go and ruin this design... I just don't know how they will face the relatives and memorial problems? It is all connected.
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Old May 4th, 2015, 09:36 PM   #3646
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2WTC is our only hope to extinguish the habit of referring to the WTC as 'The Freedom Tower and Memorial'. It's what makes the WTC a complex again, rather than a scattering of buildings. If any tower needs to be done right, it's this one, and it is absolutely crucial that it upstage 1WTC to balance out the site.
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Old May 4th, 2015, 10:54 PM   #3647
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2WTC is our only hope to extinguish the habit of referring to the WTC as 'The Freedom Tower and Memorial'. It's what makes the WTC a complex again, rather than a scattering of buildings. If any tower needs to be done right, it's this one, and it is absolutely crucial that it upstage 1WTC to balance out the site.
I agree. Everyone will look up at this building and want to know the name of it.

Sadly, the WTC is only referred to as "the freedom tower". I think 3 WTC might ease that effect, hopefully.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 03:35 AM   #3648
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No one in NY calls it the "Freedom Tower".
Only some people on these boards.....
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Old May 5th, 2015, 06:25 AM   #3649
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I'm calling bs on that. It should be the other way around.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 08:42 AM   #3650
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No one in NY calls it the "Freedom Tower".
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Lies. You head to the site and that's all you'll hear.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 11:04 AM   #3651
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^ From tourists.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 12:24 PM   #3652
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Ignorance is bliss.

But back to 2 WT.....200 Greenwich street. That's what everyone in NY call it.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 03:34 PM   #3653
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Every newspaper, blog, online new service, twitter account, etc. in Latin America calls it "La Torre de La Libertad" Which translates to "The Freedom Tower"
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Old May 5th, 2015, 10:53 PM   #3654
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lol. go back to jersey you nerd
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Old May 6th, 2015, 12:02 AM   #3655
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The only people who call it Freedom Tower are people who are misinformed and don't care what they call it. I'd say the majority of New Yorkers call it the world trade center and that's it.
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Well, I call it the Freedom Tower too. 1WTC is uniconic, boring and uninteresting in my opinion. On the other hand Freedom Tower is bold, iconic and memorable, a truly fitting name for the most important building on the planet
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Lol, at first glance I read "uniconic" as "unicornic".
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Old May 6th, 2015, 04:34 AM   #3658
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To each their own but I think "Freedom Tower" is super cheesy... One World Trade Center is where it's at.
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It is so much fun to watch all of this unfold. The idea that the design could be changed and thus make the site, already compromised and cheapened, further discordant, is so pathetic it is actually funny.
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It is so much fun to watch all of this unfold. The idea that the design could be changed and thus make the site, already compromised and cheapened, further discordant, is so pathetic it is actually funny.
replace "funny" with "incredibly sad and utterly infuriating" and I agree...
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