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Old August 10th, 2010, 09:25 AM   #421
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Yea, i post with my phone too, about half the time, but i also take photos. Go to J&R pick up a cheapie point and shoot, e-mail the images to yourself at a fedex kinko's. Quit makin' excuses and post some photos! :p

Photobucket app on the app store for iOS devices as well.

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And what part of NYC are you from (cough tourist). I've taking picture before it was a one shot deal. You'll have to pay me for the rest LOL.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 02:29 AM   #422
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From wtc.com, by Joe Woolhead. 8-5-10.

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Old August 12th, 2010, 09:57 PM   #423
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And what part of NYC are you from (cough tourist). I've taking picture before it was a one shot deal. You'll have to pay me for the rest LOL.
I give city tours, and um, if you don't live there and you come there you're a visitor or commuter. Only tourist if you're on holiday/vacation.

I have my own camera which i can use to take photos from both NY and NJ, and i share my photos with the world because its the right thing to do.

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Old August 13th, 2010, 03:06 AM   #424
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I give city tours, and um, if you don't live there and you come there you're a visitor or commuter. Only tourist if you're on holiday/vacation.

I have my own camera which i can use to take photos from both NY and NJ, and i share my photos with the world because its the right thing to do.

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Old August 13th, 2010, 11:11 PM   #425
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I don't understand why the thread title still says 408m | 1339ft | 76 fl.
Do you have any source for that or do you just guess!??


SSP says 1350 foot, 78 floors basing on an article of the New York Times.

WTC.com says 1350 foot, 79 floors.

So what?
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Old August 14th, 2010, 01:12 AM   #426
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I don't understand why the thread title still says 408m | 1339ft | 76 fl.
Do you have any source for that or do you just guess!??


SSP says 1350 foot, 78 floors basing on an article of the New York Times.

WTC.com says 1350 foot, 79 floors.

So what?
hmmm.

CTBUH: 411m | 1348ft | 79 fl
http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/index.ph...uilding_id=209
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Old August 14th, 2010, 04:42 AM   #427
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Also the 4WTC thread says 61 floors but,

On http://www.wtc.com/about/office-tower-4 its says that the building has 64 floors? (And that is without the 4 basement floors).
Same thing on CTBUH: http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/index.ph...uilding_id=545
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Old August 14th, 2010, 05:19 AM   #428
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Also the 4WTC thread says 61 floors but,

On http://www.wtc.com/about/office-tower-4 its says that the building has 64 floors? (And that is without the 4 basement floors).
Same thing on CTBUH: http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/index.ph...uilding_id=545
The discrepancies appear due to how some count the mechanical floors. Maki's website says 4WTC is 61 floors. Looking at the diagram from wtc.com I count 62 floors. But the top floor (mechanical) could be counted as 1 floor or two. It's definetly not 64 floors.
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Old August 14th, 2010, 05:25 AM   #429
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I'm not 100% sure in this but would I be right in saying that no new building is actually being built on the site of the old towers and that is where the tree's and waterfall section is and the new buildings are being built over buildings that were over the road from the towers?

I've not really paid much attention to this development but that's how it looks to me on the development photographs.
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Old August 14th, 2010, 05:28 AM   #430
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As for 2WTC, check out the diagram at http://www.wtc.com/media/images/d/15...ualDesigns.jpg. If you download the hi-res image and count the floors it's quite confusing.



I count the following floors,

1-4: Retail (4th is half mechanical, half retail)
5- Mechanical
6-9: Office
10-12: Mechanical
13-48: Office
49: Mechanical
50-73: Office

And where it gets really confusing is the top. You can see floors 74, 75, and 76 as double story mechanical floors. I'd call it 3 floors, giving 2WTC 76 actual floors. But you could double count them, and their does appear another mechanical floor above what I count as 76. Giving it a possible 77 floors. So it really just comes down to how people count the mech floors.
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Old August 14th, 2010, 05:36 AM   #431
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The third mech floor from the bottom looks more triple than double.

-edit- (of the ones at the top I mean)
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Old August 14th, 2010, 06:11 AM   #432
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The third mech floor from the bottom looks more triple than double.

-edit- (of the ones at the top I mean)
Yup, I see what you mean. 3 stories high, but "technically" 1 floor.
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The discrepancies appear due to how some count the mechanical floors. Maki's website says 4WTC is 61 floors. Looking at the diagram from wtc.com I count 62 floors. But the top floor (mechanical) could be counted as 1 floor or two. It's definetly not 64 floors.
Im sorry but that does not convince me. The first thing is you cannot count the floors on the diagrams and use that as proof. (Its NOT the architectural diagram of the building). The offices floors goes from 7-63 (source wtc.com), and mechanical floors are counted as one floor on the 47nd and on the 64th.

So yes the building is not 64 stories office floors, but it goes to the 64th floor because of the base which is 7 floors of podium/retail (3 floors) and mechanical floors (4 floors).

Sorry I know this is for the 4WTC post, but its in relations to the same discussion about 2WTC's floor count.
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Old August 14th, 2010, 06:23 AM   #434
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New York developers are notorious for inflating floor counts and Larry Silverstein is no exception. The worst is Donald Trump who turns 58 story buildings into "68 story" buildings. Take those floor counts with a grain of salt. Nobody over here really cares that much.
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New York developers are notorious for inflating floor counts and Larry Silverstein is no exception. The worst is Donald Trump who turns 58 story buildings into "68 story" buildings. Take those floor counts with a grain of salt. Nobody over here really cares that much.
Of cause it really doesn't matter, its only 3 floors. Lets just wait and see what top floor the elevator goes to, when we visit the tower in the future.
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Old August 14th, 2010, 08:32 AM   #436
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Im sorry but that does not convince me. The first thing is you cannot count the floors on the diagrams and use that as proof. (Its NOT the architectural diagram of the building). The offices floors goes from 7-63 (source wtc.com), and mechanical floors are counted as one floor on the 47nd and on the 64th.

So yes the building is not 64 stories office floors, but it goes to the 64th floor because of the base which is 7 floors of podium/retail (3 floors) and mechanical floors (4 floors).

Sorry I know this is for the 4WTC post, but its in relations to the same discussion about 2WTC's floor count.
Those diagrams are pretty spot on. I see no reason to doubt them. There are similar diagrams released for 1WTC which have matched up identically to its construction.

Just for fun, my floor count on 4WTC follows,

1-6: Retail/Mechanical
7-44: Office
45: Mechanical
46-60: Office
61/62: Mechanical.
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Old August 14th, 2010, 08:38 AM   #437
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New York developers are notorious for inflating floor counts and Larry Silverstein is no exception. The worst is Donald Trump who turns 58 story buildings into "68 story" buildings. Take those floor counts with a grain of salt. Nobody over here really cares that much.
Some of us skyscraper geeks care very much. LOL.

Your right about Trump though. Trump World Tower was/is touted as having 90 floors. But really is only 72.

Quite honestly, you could make the case that 2WTC is 135+ stories tall.
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Hmm, that line of thought made me consider the following: Burj Dubai is 828m tall. Each floor is 3m high. So, 828 divided by three makes a total of 276 floors!! Impressive, ain't it?
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Old August 14th, 2010, 10:21 AM   #439
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It could have, but the top 200m is just spire and has no floors. Floor height is also above 3 meter.
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Old August 14th, 2010, 10:29 AM   #440
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Actually, since the spire is accessible and divided into segments, you can count those as floors. And if your living requirements are really low, and you don't mind sleeping upright, and don't mind climbing up and down a hundred meters of ladders every time you need to go to the bathroom, you could make yourself at home in one of the segments.

And if you want to go one step further, you could set up a tent at the tip of the spire. Now that would probably be a worthy contender for the most unique home in the world...
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