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Old June 15th, 2015, 01:11 AM   #4481
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I have actually envisioned some better designs than this "world-renowned" architect, and I haven't become an architect so far. I think that says enough.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 01:47 AM   #4482
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The twin towers are really a different story. I think they became iconic for the fact that there were two of them and that they were massive in size and height.
Also have to consider the time they where built. If they never existed, and they where proposed today... most reactions would be "bland, boring, uninspired, generic, ugly, etc"

But even when they where built, they didn't thrilled many people, and except the size, where really nothing special. and the design brought criticism of its aesthetics from the American Institute of Architects and other groups.
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"example of the purposeless giantism and technological exhibitionism that are now eviscerating the living tissue of every great city"
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Old June 15th, 2015, 01:53 AM   #4483
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I don't know how anyone can say it was uninspired or generic. Maybe if they were architecturally illiterate, but even then.

I know people who don't care about architecture say what they're building now won't truly replace the twins.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 01:55 AM   #4484
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People who think the old WTC was uninspired or generic have never researched it.
Yes... they where architectural gems...

Almost a shame they did not demolished ESB and Chrysler to build 2 more of them.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 02:03 AM   #4485
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Yes. They were. Not everything needs frou-frou decoration on it to look good.

And in what way does liking an icon of modernism imply you would want other icons destroyed? What a ridiculous thing to say.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 02:04 AM   #4486
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Where the heck did this come from? Who created this? That's bizarre. A 6WTC??
Don't worry, this is never gonna happen. Looks like the work of some random skyscraper fan
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Old June 15th, 2015, 04:08 AM   #4487
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I'm sorry but the reasoning behind his "inspiration" for this design is rather dull and uninspiring. It's lazy. Cliche. Boring. And most notoriously unimaginative. I am not impressed. I'm done venting. Just build this "Leaning Tower of Blocks". Let it be.
Well architects are famous for taking a straight line, and then writing a 200 page thesis on why an architectural straight line is in fact incomprehensibly more complex than a straight line, and of course only the architecturally sophisticated could understand the true complexity.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 04:39 AM   #4488
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In my opinion, new desing is alternative, but primitive No boxes, nooo Maybe Manhattan needs something alternative and elegant, so Ingels option should be replace in some unordinary city. I saw other projects of Ingels, they are nice, but this... They never design supertall, perhaps that is a reason. So let them make redesing once more, question is not about good or not good this new option or Foster's, but why so big changes?
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Old June 15th, 2015, 04:42 AM   #4489
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The new design reminds me of this building in Colombia. Imo, although it's not an ugly building, it's not good for such a place as the WTC site. It destroys the harmony of the complex. Rogers' design complemented perfectly the sharp angles of 1WTC being some sort of transition between the angled 1WTC and the cubical forms of 3 and 4WTC. Hope the design improves for the final building.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 04:43 AM   #4490
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The building in Colombia is by far more beautiful.
There is an harmony with city,contrary to 2wtc.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 04:55 AM   #4491
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^ Yes the Colombian building is much nicer the 2 WTC. 2 wtc has no harmony with the skyline and the building is plain out ugly. Like some one above said, I am not an architect an I have designed and envisioned towers far better than this one.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 05:15 AM   #4492
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^ Yes the Colombian building is much nicer the 2 WTC. 2 wtc has no harmony with the skyline and the building is plain out ugly. Like some one above said, I am not an architect an I have designed and envisioned towers far better than this one.
Me too i m not an architect,But i can make 10000 time better.
I want one day to become a real estate developer and i will never make a horror like that.I will construct very beautiful thing like those in Dubai or asia.

I have a question. I wonder where do these architech got their diploma,because they don t know how to design a building.Even a 5 years old children would do a better job.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 05:26 AM   #4493
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The new design is modern and somewhat unique. It's different. But it just doesn't convince me. I don't think it fits the skyline of the site itself. I was very disappointed when I found out about this new design. The old one with the four diamonds on the top was perfect and it was such a beautiful yet modern skyscraper.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 05:33 AM   #4494
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This whole thing is a mess. If it gets built as is then the site is ruined from all angles except maybe the memorial. I would honestly rather a 1,340' ft glass box over this, at least it would basically be a twin 1WTC. This is the successor to the SOUTH TOWER! Like what are they doing?! As much as 1WTC was modified and not for the better it's still beautiful and it has a striking resemblance to the North Tower from all the important angles. This is just a monstrosity.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 06:36 AM   #4495
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I don't know how anyone can say it was uninspired or generic. Maybe if they were architecturally illiterate, but even then.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, of course. The Times's architecture critic was not impressed at the time.

Big but Not So Bold; Trade Center Towers Are Tallest, But Architecture Is Smaller Scale
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Old June 15th, 2015, 06:51 AM   #4496
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Nothing will justify what's planned on being built here. You go from having the twin towers, the Kings of New York and 2 of the most iconic towers in history to this? It's another f*ck you to us New Yorkers. I'm 100% being that person right now chanting the twins should have came back because this is pathetic. So much time and money absorbed into this master plan that never and will never come to its full realization. 2 WTC needs a better design ASAP.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 08:43 AM   #4497
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I don't blame BIG so much because they are just inexperienced at skyscrapers. Their forte is smaller buildings where their livable design principles make more sense. Bjarke was simply the wrong person for the job. I'm rather more inclined to blame whoever hired him, and toward whom these petitions should be directed.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 02:18 PM   #4498
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I don't blame BIG so much because they are just inexperienced at skyscrapers. Their forte is smaller buildings where their livable design principles make more sense. Bjarke was simply the wrong person for the job. I'm rather more inclined to blame whoever hired him, and toward whom these petitions should be directed.
But his blame is that he accepted the job. I've never designed a skyscraper so I'm just not suitable for designing 2WTC. He hasn't designed a skyscraper so he's not suitable for designing 2WTC. It's that simple. An old phrase says: "If you don't have anything smart to say, then stay quiet." It should be applied in architecture, so we wouldn't have buildings like this located in places like WTC.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 02:20 PM   #4499
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Yeah, because this design is all about interior practicality and usability with the total expense of exterior design and appearance. Sadly so...
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Old June 15th, 2015, 02:34 PM   #4500
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An old phrase says: "If you don't have anything smart to say, then stay quiet." It should be applied in architecture.
Ye, but when you get millions to "say" something, it does not mater.

Another old phrase says: "you don't get many chances in life"
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