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Old August 25th, 2015, 11:56 PM   #5021
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i just read about the new design , damn , that was my favorite one, especially the crown. But what the heck ist that?
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Old August 26th, 2015, 08:10 AM   #5022
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I'm pretty sure Foster's design blocked 1 WTC from certain angles also.
Yeah the fact that someday 2 WTC will block One WTC from some angles has always bummed me out a bit. But I would be even more bummed if a Tower 2 was never built. I'm glad that 2 WTC might actually get started! It's just a shame that It won't be Foster's design. The new design isn't terrible IMO, but It could be way better.

The way I see it, the fact that we are rebuilding tall again at this site means that the terrorists did NOT win!
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Old August 26th, 2015, 09:56 AM   #5023
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I agree. It's true that this tower's style is quite different from the other WTC towers. But Lower Manhattan already has a mix of a wide variety of different styles.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 02:16 PM   #5024
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14 years ago this was Bjarke Ingels's opinion...

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.2254683

"(After 9/11), my thinking was just to build the towers again the way they were," Danish-born Ingels told the Daily News the day after his big reveal.
"They were such a big part of the identity of Manhattan. When you watch Tony Soprano drive out of the Holland Tunnel, he can see the towers in his rearview mirror. They looked very strong."

...One has to wonder... What happened ??
Does he think that this design looks 'strong' !? Does he?... I mean, really ??
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Old August 26th, 2015, 04:26 PM   #5025
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It would be good to hear an update on the agreement (if it was ever signed by Fox/Silver) and if a new official restart to the construction has been discussed. I know they have an agreement in principle and they are working on details, but with the history at the site one would think a little more transparency would be encouraged.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 05:36 PM   #5026
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Lol!you are so desirous of being spiritual and funny that you don't even realize your contradiction:is the tower bowing and deferring to 1 WTC or is it too big,blocking the view,hogging the skyline,"barging into the room"!??
What you write does not have any sense;for the rest,if you perform in some play on Broadway,a one man show in Vegas or even a comic performance on Time Square plaza,just let me know!..
I don't think you're comprehending his statement. His criticism makes perfect sense.

He's telling us he thinks BIG wants us to view 2 WTC as "bowing" to 1 WTC. Then he goes on to say that philisophy is wrong because it's too big, takes away from the skyline and 1 WTC. It's intent is to memorialize the site, but it does the complete opposite.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 05:38 PM   #5027
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One question.....¿after the 9/11 nobody though in to do the same towers than the original WTC?
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Old August 26th, 2015, 08:38 PM   #5028
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One question.....¿after the 9/11 nobody though in to do the same towers than the original WTC?

Yeap!!...: THE DONALD!(WORLD TRUMP CENTER)
YOU ARE FIRED PABLOEING!!!!


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Old August 26th, 2015, 09:00 PM   #5029
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The fact that Trump tried to get involved in this site makes me sick. Anyway rebuilding the twins would've meant were stuck in the past. Whether the new 2 WTC is terrible or not, Just remember what we were originally going to get.


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Old August 26th, 2015, 10:01 PM   #5030
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thats was NOT trumps idea.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 10:26 PM   #5031
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thats was NOT trumps idea.
No just that it was Trump is what I hate. I know that it wasn't his idea to rebuild the twins and his proposal wasn't the only proposal to rebuild them.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 10:45 PM   #5032
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This building looks like Number 2.
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Old August 27th, 2015, 06:21 AM   #5033
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The fact that Trump tried to get involved in this site makes me sick. Anyway rebuilding the twins would've meant were stuck in the past. Whether the new 2 WTC is terrible or not, Just remember what we were originally going to get.


TECHNICALLY speaking, we were supposed to get this:



But through political conflicts, we got a bunch of haphazardly positioned buildings with a building that looked exactly like the Statue of Liberty and nothing like the twins. At least the current design actually rebuilds the skyline in a somewhat dignified way, instead of looking awkward and copying another arbitrary landmark.
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Old August 27th, 2015, 07:16 AM   #5034
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THINK teams twin tower design was really strange, so was Foster's kissing towers.

Would have just preferred Ken Gardner's twin towers.

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Old August 27th, 2015, 08:06 AM   #5035
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It looks like a building about to tumble over. What an incredibly insensitive megalomaniac Fox News permanence for the site.
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Old August 27th, 2015, 01:10 PM   #5036
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Old August 27th, 2015, 06:03 PM   #5037
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That would look odd because of the way 1 WTC is angled. Looking at it from the SW would be strange and wouldn't flow very well. I feel like designs that involve twins really only work when the buildings are very basic. Like Manhattan west for example.
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Old August 27th, 2015, 06:19 PM   #5038
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Not to mention it's impossible to build a twin of 1 WTC anywhere on the site.
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Old August 27th, 2015, 06:19 PM   #5039
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I was browsing through wtc.com when I noticed that 2 WTC height had went from 1,340' to 1,270 feet now. Not sure if they mean the roof height would be 1,270 feet and the parapet would be 1,340 but then why change it? I would be pissed if this got a height decrease. Hopefully it's not true because the loss of Foster's design was too much to bear...
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Old August 27th, 2015, 07:55 PM   #5040
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it seems too coincidental that they would update their website with such information after they did the same for 3 WTC. I'm guessing it's a height cut. We should probably assume that 1270' will be the official height of this tower including the parapet. If that's the case then I give up at trying to accept this new design. It would be a total loss in my book. The only good thing is that it will (probably) be built now - unfortunately as a 1270' mar on the skyline.

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