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Old December 7th, 2015, 07:53 PM   #5261
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They are now getting ready to prep the site for construction, they cleaned the north corner by the new walkway that opened in June! It is confirmed that 2 World Trade Center starts next month!!!
you have to do better than that....
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Old December 7th, 2015, 09:31 PM   #5262
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You convert old or completed buildings not ones in the design phase. It makes no sense when you have a clean sheet of paper. I would not compromise on requirements.
Except it is not a clean sheet of paper. They already built part of the base of the Foster design including mechanical/ventilation systems for the Transit hub which will now have to be moved.
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Old December 8th, 2015, 02:16 AM   #5263
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Where did you
Where did you see the confirmation that construction of 2 WTC starts next month? There hasn't been any announcement about a lease finally being signed.
I know someone who works at the WTC, he talked to the rigging companies and they said they will start next month, billing has been done
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Old December 8th, 2015, 04:19 PM   #5264
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Financing might be getting some help...

Port and New York State consider subsidizing News Corp. lease
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...ews-corp-lease

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New York State and the Port Authority are considering giving two companies effectively controlled by the Murdoch family tens of millions of dollars in subsidies, in an effort to kick start construction of 2 World Trade Center.

Though in June 2014, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said it would deny any additional “public sector support” to the development of Tower 2, the agency's agenda for Thursday's meeting, released Monday, outlines roughly $25 million in proposed state incentives for 21st Century Fox and News Corp., both of which are considering moving into the building.

The incentives include a “one-time payment of $15 million” from New York State to facilitate the deal, and an “Excelsior investment tax credit” the Port values at $10 million.

The two media companies will, according to the proposal, agree to reimburse the Port Authority for the tax credit when they take occupancy. Silverstein Properties net leases the 2 World Trade site at Ground Zero from the Port Authority.

Should the Port Authority proposal go through, the cost of that net lease will also be reduced, according to that same agenda.

Once the state’s incentives are factored in, the Port Authority (which is jointly controlled by New York and New Jersey, but is technically a separate entity) would take a $9 million hit.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s office declined comment. So did Silverstein Properties, News Corp, and 21st Century Fox.

In a statement, a Port Authority spokesman said, “The Port Authority expects to gain at least $500 million in capital capacity for future transportation projects as a result of the Tower 2 project at the World Trade Center. The agency believes success of the project is contingent on some public sector support, which would be limited to $9 million from the Port Authority and Silverstein Properties to each of the skyscraper’s two proposed major tenants. The proposed public support would total approximately $23 per square foot for Tower 2, below the $30 per square-foot provided Group M at Tower 3 and the $250 per square foot for Conde Nast.”

In June, Silverstein announced it had entered into a non-binding letter of intent with 21st Century Fox and News Corp. to serve as the anchor tenants of 2 World Trade Center.

Together they would lease 1.5 million square feet for 30 years.

The lease has yet to be signed, and these new incentives come amidst the ongoing negotiations.
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Old December 8th, 2015, 05:23 PM   #5265
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Financing might be getting some help...

Port and New York State consider subsidizing News Corp. lease
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...ews-corp-lease
Our tax dollars (and bridge tolls) hard at work: getting in Murdoch and Silverstein's pockets...

I understand the concept of "re-vitalizing" the WTC site, making it attractive for potential tenants and generating business - but the PA should have no business subsidizing billionaires with public money and biasing the market's offer/demand ratio's equilibrium with incentives.

The PA should use that money to maintain/modernize some of their infrastructures (bridges, tunnels, airports) which are in dire need of it instead of financing a new design which will cost twice the original one because the tenant wanted larger floor spaces and a "less conventional" look.
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Old December 8th, 2015, 05:54 PM   #5266
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Amen to that.
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Old December 8th, 2015, 06:37 PM   #5267
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Double Amen.
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Old December 11th, 2015, 09:49 PM   #5268
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Port Authority approves subsidies for Silverstein’s 2 WTC

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Deal expected to generate $500M to $600M for revenue for infrastructure projects

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Silverstein Properties’ 2 World Trade Center received a major boost Thursday from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which approved subsidies to help expedite the 2.8 million-square-foot office tower’s construction.

Silverstein, which leases the sites for 2 World Trade Center and two other towers at the complex from the Port Authority, is set to receive rent breaks from the agency meant to attract the office tower’s Rupert Murdoch-controlled potential anchor tenants, 21st Century Fox and News Corp.

The subsidies will help the Port Authority generate $500 million to $600 million of revenue supporting future transportation projects, said Patrick Foye, director of the authority.

In a statement, Janno Lieber, who is overseeing the World Trade Center project for Silverstein, characterized the deal as one that “always made sense for the Port Authority.” He classified the rent breaks as “a modest adjustment to 21st Century Fox and News Corp’s long-term ground rent,” and said they would cost the authority $9 million dollars over the 30-year lease term.

In addition, the tenants will also receive $19 million in support from Silverstein and $15 million in tax credits from Empire State Development — with the proposed public support for 21st Century Fox and News Corp. totaling around $16 per square foot over the 30-year initial lease.

That would be “well below the per square foot level of support provided for tenants” at 1 World Trade Center and the planned 3 World Trade Center, the Port Authority said.

Completion of the Bjarke Ingels-designed tower, meanwhile, would raise the value of the entire World Trade Center complex – enabling the Port Authority to eventually exit that investment, according to Bloomberg.

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- See more at: http://therealdeal.com/blog/2015/12/....J1AkyrbG.dpuf
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Old December 12th, 2015, 11:27 PM   #5269
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So it is actually a loan
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Old December 14th, 2015, 09:15 PM   #5270
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Old December 14th, 2015, 09:41 PM   #5271
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3WTC does not look 1,080ft there. It seems much taller.
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Old December 14th, 2015, 11:19 PM   #5272
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Actually it looks more like this shrunk to about 350m. Im kind of happy with a height reduction. Makes the silly design stand out less.

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Old December 15th, 2015, 12:13 AM   #5273
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It appears that the upper most box got a height cut. I too am happy for this because this building is absolutely awful. I don't see how someone can look at that first render and think this is a good looking building!
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Old December 15th, 2015, 12:28 AM   #5274
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Yes, WTC 2 is 387 m. according SSP thread, but here looks ~360 m. Is not Foster's landmark, but still imposing.
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Old December 15th, 2015, 01:44 AM   #5275
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Besides the height cut, the only other thing that has changed is that apparently, unless this is due to bad editing, the gardens are getting some weird lighting at night.
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Old December 15th, 2015, 02:12 AM   #5276
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CUANDO EMPEZARAN LA CONSTRUCCION DE ESTAR HERMOSA TORRE.....ESTA PARALIZADA MUCHOS AŅOS.
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Old December 15th, 2015, 09:48 AM   #5277
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They managed to make it even worse by cutting just the top box. The proportions were already awkward before
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Old December 15th, 2015, 09:55 AM   #5278
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for comparison, 2 wtc is clearly stubbier now.

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Old December 15th, 2015, 02:42 PM   #5279
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for comparison, 2 wtc is clearly stubbier now.

What a blah complex... The view from the the memorial is really nothing like it should have been. First 3wtc was stripped of its ornamentation, now this change of form and height cut. Gone is the cutting foster spire for a flat top box ( south view). Disappointed in everyone involved as the complex is looking very corporate now and without much creative spark. My favorite now is 1wtc, the best of a dull bunch. The other three towers are underwhelming.
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Old December 15th, 2015, 08:40 PM   #5280
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Great that this one already seems to be shrinking in the renders. I hope that they'll value engineer the shit out of this tower until it is a stepless boring box without the overhangs.
3 WTC used to be my favorit, but by removing its spires and the cross beams that one also has lost its charm. 4 WTC was already a boring design and the only nice looking view at that tower will be blocked by 2 and 3 WTC. This whole projected is one big "what could have been".
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