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Old December 16th, 2015, 03:52 AM   #5281
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Fosters roof would should be implemented to complete BIGS dull west face of tower 2 .By doing so it can pay respect to the memorial as well as increase tower 2 height. Any done now can only be an improvement.
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Old December 16th, 2015, 05:41 AM   #5282
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Kinda amazing how the WTC site after all the discussions, planning, design competitions and star architects, we end with pretty much the very first presented schemes, which were so disapproved by the public.
An actual Odyssee which will eventually take 20 years. Much like the greek epic.

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Old December 16th, 2015, 04:48 PM   #5283
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Instead of becoming a symbol of modern and tolerant NYC, WTC complex became a group of uninspired, dull boxes... #pray_for_architecture
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Old December 16th, 2015, 04:53 PM   #5284
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by far my favourite skyscraper happening in NY right now.. well, if it ends up happening at least..
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Old December 17th, 2015, 11:41 PM   #5285
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3 WTC used to be my favorit, but by removing its spires and the cross beams that one also has lost its charm. 4 WTC was already a boring design and the only nice looking view at that tower will be blocked by 2 and 3 WTC. This whole projected is one big "what could have been".
At least the memorial and transportation hub turned out really nice.
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Old December 18th, 2015, 06:01 AM   #5286
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This design has finally grown on me. Im really starting to like it but I still detest the fact that they got rid of the diamond. Couldnt thel at least have kept the diamond?
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Old December 18th, 2015, 06:02 AM   #5287
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can anyone here render a fantasy design combining the diamond top of the original design set ontop of the current one?
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Old December 18th, 2015, 08:35 AM   #5288
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Yet again something ruined by Rupert Murdoch
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Old December 18th, 2015, 08:57 AM   #5289
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This design has finally grown on me. Im really starting to like it but I still detest the fact that they got rid of the diamond. Couldnt thel at least have kept the diamond?
Nah cause of all the antennas and satellites that will be on the roof, Foster's diamond shape roof wouldn't allow for that.
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Old December 18th, 2015, 05:40 PM   #5290
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Why can't they just shut up and just make 2 WTC look identical to the Freedom Tower in both design and height!? (without the antenna)
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Old December 18th, 2015, 06:15 PM   #5291
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Why can't they just shut up and just make 2 WTC look identical to the Freedom Tower in both design and height!? (without the antenna)
It would look nothing like the original WTC, the design of 1 WTC wouldn't allow it.

BIG's tower also has a cleaver way of making use of the existing foundation. The footprint of 1 WTC wouldn't fit.

In all, this is what the master plan was. 1 WTC being the icon of the site with three boring, boxy buildings slapped next to it.
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Old December 18th, 2015, 07:29 PM   #5292
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I guess it is all a question of money - and nothing else. The current design makes more economic sense than Fosters original design? And lets face it the original World Towers weren't exactly exciting architecture either.
Anyone knows how much extra the Foster Tower would cost?
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Old December 19th, 2015, 02:21 AM   #5293
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What will be the exact height ?
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Old December 19th, 2015, 02:39 AM   #5294
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What will be the exact height ?
we have two figures to go by, both reputable.
CTBUH says 1323' and 82 floors.
the official webpages of the WTC say 1270' and 80+
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Old December 19th, 2015, 05:06 AM   #5295
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I guess it is all a question of money - and nothing else. The current design makes more economic sense than Fosters original design? And lets face it the original World Towers weren't exactly exciting architecture either.
Anyone knows how much extra the Foster Tower would cost?
Ny is known as a place where corporate boxes are often built for money purposes (maximize profits), but this was a special place that warranted something different and unique. Around the world we see corporate towers going up in all shapes and sizes (Swiss RE, Shard, Shanghai Tower, etc.) This was an opportunity for NY to build something very different given it's lack of grid constraint. The plan looks like a big corporate CBD a la Canary Wharf or La Defense now without much of anything architecturally interesting - unless you are a fan of modernist boxes. Let's face it, most of the public will never really even bother looking at the towers for more than a passing glance now. The focus will be on the memorial and the hub. I wish the original Foster proposal for the WTC had won, it at least had character which this complex has been stripped of. I should have known the most architecturally interesting tower was going to be changed sooner or later, once the simple boxes had been constructed.
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Old December 19th, 2015, 05:31 AM   #5296
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whens construction going to begin?
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Old December 19th, 2015, 07:33 AM   #5297
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whens construction going to begin?
January 2016, afew weeks!
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Old December 19th, 2015, 01:36 PM   #5298
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What a blah complex... The view from the the memorial is really nothing like it should have been. First 3wtc was stripped of its ornamentation, now this change of form and height cut. Gone is the cutting foster spire for a flat top box ( south view). Disappointed in everyone involved as the complex is looking very corporate now and without much creative spark. My favorite now is 1wtc, the best of a dull bunch. The other three towers are underwhelming.
I agree with you on 2WTC and 3WTC. 4 Is the most outstanding IMO. Amazing mirror fašades.
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Old December 19th, 2015, 06:32 PM   #5299
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I love how it leans into 1 WTC.
That's only from one point of view. Anyway, Godzilla already looks threatening...
Ooops it's the architect himself...
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Old December 19th, 2015, 06:34 PM   #5300
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why did they change the project? this one is fuc**** ugly
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