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Old January 15th, 2016, 07:24 PM   #5441
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I'd suggest taking screenshots, you'd end up with a much clearer picture!
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Old January 15th, 2016, 11:09 PM   #5442
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This was posted on the World Trade Center official Facebook page today...


Statement from Larry A. Silverstein, Chairman, Silverstein Properties Inc.
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“While I am disappointed that 21st Century Fox and News Corp have elected to hold off on moving their headquarters, I am immensely grateful to the Murdochs and their talented team, as well as to the Bjarke Ingels Group and our partners at the Port Authority, for their inspired work over the past year.
“Make no mistake: it won’t be long before we find a great company to anchor 2 World Trade Center. Lower Manhattan has firmly established itself as the neighborhood of choice for the world’s most dynamic technology, advertising, media, financial and other creative businesses. Downtown’s momentum is palpable and unstoppable – more than 600 firms have moved to Downtown since 2005, leasing over 15 million square feet of space. We at Silverstein Properties remain 100 percent committed to successfully completing this historic rebuilding effort.”
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Old January 15th, 2016, 11:16 PM   #5443
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Man that's kind of a bummer but I'm glad Silverstein is at least optimistic about it.

I've grown to like this monster and really want to see it built ASAP.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 11:21 PM   #5444
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So is it going to be built or not? This is turning into a real soap opera...
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Old January 15th, 2016, 11:33 PM   #5445
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So is it going to be built or not? This is turning into a real soap opera...
There was speculation for this month
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Old January 15th, 2016, 11:52 PM   #5446
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Man, old Larry S. got spectacularly short-changed, bamboozled and f****d (all 3 at the same time) by the Murdoches. They gave him a shiver of hope and then took it away...

He ditched the plans from F+P, hired BIG (at the request of Bjarke's pal Jimmy Murdoch) and did a complete re-design of 2WTC in order to get Fox News as an anchor tenant and now he gets the cold shoulder and has NOTHING to show for his efforts - except a brand new design which will be much more expensive to build and may not attract a lot of future potential tenants...

That's hysterical - I guess the only way it could have been worse would be if the demolition/rework of the foundation had already started...

What if the next anchor tenant requires that they bring back F+P design (or another new design) as a condition to move in? The suspense is killing me...
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Old January 15th, 2016, 11:54 PM   #5447
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2WTC Loses Its Anchor Tenant: News Corp to Stay In Midtown

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News Corp and 21st Century Fox have officially pulled out of their deal to move to 2 World Trade Center. According to a report in the New York Post, the Rupert Murdoch-owned companies have decided to retain their office space in Midtown
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Old January 16th, 2016, 12:02 AM   #5448
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It's really like they dangled a carrot in front of poor old Larry S. to get him to move and change the design of 2 WTC and pfuiiiiiii...

After all it's not like anybody should need proof that the Murdoches are pure evil - but they're the only ones who could have pulled such a cruel stunt like that... You almost have to tip your hat to them...
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Old January 16th, 2016, 12:09 AM   #5449
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It's really like they dangled a carrot in front of poor old Larry S. to get him to move and change the design of 2 WTC and pfuiiiiiii...

After all it's not like anybody should need proof that the Murdoches are pure evil - but they're the only ones who could have pulled such a cruel stunt like that... You almost have to tip your hat to them...
Yea kind of terrible, but hopefully this means the original Foster design can be reconsidered.

It's hard to feel too bad for Silverstein though considering how rich he is, and well, naturally building one of the World's major supertall complexes obviously takes time.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 12:14 AM   #5450
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Oh please for all that is good and holy, let this be the death of the BIG design.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 12:31 AM   #5451
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OMG! it's best news from SSC ever!

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Old January 16th, 2016, 12:33 AM   #5452
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Yea kind of terrible, but hopefully this means the original Foster design can be reconsidered.

It's hard to feel too bad for Silverstein though considering how rich he is, and well, naturally building one of the World's major supertall complexes obviously takes time.
Honestly I can understand how bad he wants to get the complex completed. It's been long enough for everyone and this will only prolong the development here. Although by the time 2 WTC is completed for whoever decides to anchor it, everything else in the complex will already have been long finished: 1,3,4,7, the transportation hub, liberty park/greek church and maybe even the performing arts center. At this point Silverstein might not live to see the new WTC completed but hopefully it's ultimately done right.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 12:37 AM   #5453
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Best news of the days. I'm sorry for Silverstein as I know he's put everything he's got into finishing the site. But I hope this means they'll stick with the original plan.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 12:54 AM   #5454
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Sucks for WTC site that the tower will be on hold longer. But saying I'm relieved is an understatement.
The building had its merits from ground level but other than that, just looking at those last graphs really expose the ugliness of that tower.
Since it will be a pain to modify the base of the tower I would think that Foster's design should be back on the table.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 01:17 AM   #5455
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Sucks for WTC site that the tower will be on hold longer. But saying I'm relieved is an understatement.
The building had its merits from ground level but other than that, just looking at those last graphs really expose the ugliness of that tower.
Since it will be a pain to modify the base of the tower I would think that Foster's design should be back on the table.
That would be the logical and sane thing to do. However switching design after the foundations had already been built was already an abysmally stupid decision (and by the way so was starting a redesign based on a non-binding agreement - stupidest decision of 2015...). So I'm not holding my breath...

It even remains to be seen if they could bring F+P back on board to do the construction follow-up since they dumped them rather unceremoniously when they were courting the Murdoches and switched to BIG to get their favors - which was all for naught now...

So the Murdoches may have succeeded in shoving down BIG's design in everybody's throat (while they will not even occupy the building) AND delay the construction of the project by bailing at the last minute (not to mention that BIG's design will be costlier and take longer to build).

Evil, but brilliant... I wonder if they had an ax to grind with Silverstein or if they were just messing with him for fun.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 01:22 AM   #5456
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Now the real question here is whether they stick with Foster's or BIG's. I see no reason for not going back to the original one, since it's gonna spend some more time on hold and build 2WTC as it was first conceived.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 01:23 AM   #5457
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Can 3 WTC get the spires back now?

Most importantly, can we get Foster's tower back!

What a waste of time all of this has been. Murdoch is an idiot for doing all of this and then dropping out when news that they would sign the lease was imminent.
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Rogers should bug Silverstein about the spires now that there won't be any need for banal crown coherence.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 01:28 AM   #5459
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Yea kind of terrible, but hopefully this means the original Foster design can be reconsidered.

It's hard to feel too bad for Silverstein though considering how rich he is, and well, naturally building one of the World's major supertall complexes obviously takes time.
I'm not really sorry for Silverstein as he has got what he deserved for being a weathervane, trying to make a deal with the devil (Murdoch) and losing his soul (2 WTC original design) in the process...
Apparently anybody who could dangle a potential deal in front of Silverstein could probably make him dance to any tune and just bail after being sufficiently entertained...
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Old January 16th, 2016, 01:36 AM   #5460
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Now the real question here is whether they stick with Foster's or BIG's. I see no reason for not going back to the original one, since it's gonna spend some more time on hold and build 2WTC as it was first conceived.
First of all I'm not sure if anything will get built as long as an anchor tenant is not signed - I believe that's a condition to unlock some funding from the PA and it was the reason why construction of the original design did not start.

Second, the construction of BIG's design will be more expensive and take more time that the original design as it involves retrofitting the foundations for the new superstructure and building some transfer levels.

However I'm not sure they can go back to F+P. If they could I hope Foster make them beg on their knee to get back in the fold - which I am sure Larry Silverstein will have no problem doing given how he bent over backwards to try to get the deal with the Murdoches. After all it's very easy to be flexible when you don't have a backbone...
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