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Old April 1st, 2011, 10:59 PM   #961
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There was an article is one of the construction magazines about Cornell now having the largest fleet of TG's in the country after acquiring a number of new cranes from FMC Link Belt. (I'm guessing at least four of them are slated for the WTC site.) (Make that five, there is one at T4.)

I don't know for a fact that Cornell is doing the fabrication and erection, but I'm not going to bet against it.

As far as crane control, who ever is paying the rent is controlling them. Of course they cooperate with all the other contractors that need the crane. (Everyone else pays $1,500+ an hour to use them.)

Update, Cornell added it to there website about the expanded fleet.
http://www.cornellcraneandsteel.com/cranes.html

I still don't see T2 or T3 listed on there webpage under current projects, time will tell if they have it or not.

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Old April 2nd, 2011, 03:07 PM   #962
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April 1st, Potapsco, Skyscraperpage..

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Old April 2nd, 2011, 05:06 PM   #963
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This is looking more and more like less of a pit.
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 07:12 PM   #964
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Does anyone happen to have a list of possible tenants? it seems like that is probably the most important thing for the future of the structure
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 07:21 PM   #965
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Good work! It's progressing.
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 07:24 PM   #966
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Wow! This things moving along. Can anyone tell me: are those black bars sticking up the outline of the building or the outline of the core? I would assume its for the building itself, but can anyone confirm for me?
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 10:44 PM   #967
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I hadn't followed this thread for a while & I must say that I really am impressed as work is coming along nicely indeed! Foster's tower is by far my favourite one, a pure diamond .
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 11:40 PM   #968
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Great progress on the structure
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Old April 3rd, 2011, 01:26 AM   #969
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Wow! This things moving along. Can anyone tell me: are those black bars sticking up the outline of the building or the outline of the core? I would assume its for the building itself, but can anyone confirm for me?
The building. The core is the concrete forms in the center.
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Old April 3rd, 2011, 06:01 AM   #970
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There was an article is one of the construction magazines about Cornell now having the largest fleet of TG's in the country after acquiring a number of new cranes from FMC Link Belt. (I'm guessing at least four of them are slated for the WTC site.) (Make that five, there is one at T4.)

I don't know for a fact that Cornell is doing the fabrication and erection, but I'm not going to bet against it.

As far as crane control, who ever is paying the rent is controlling them. Of course they cooperate with all the other contractors that need the crane. (Everyone else pays $1,500+ an hour to use them.)

Update, Cornell added it to there website about the expanded fleet.
http://www.cornellcraneandsteel.com/cranes.html

I still don't see T2 or T3 listed on there webpage under current projects, time will tell if they have it or not.
thanks for the info!

its a pretty fortunate way to pay for new equipment, since they will likely be there for the next few years.

I wonder if there was an obvious shortage of tower cranes in the city and Cornell just decided to step in as a means of building their fleet.

in any case
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Old April 8th, 2011, 01:06 AM   #971
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There is no shortage, New York Crane/Lomma was "black listed" by the Port Authority. (It all stems from the two crane accidents in 2008.)

Because the PA is a government agency alot of info is available on line, if one knows where to look.

This is but one place to start.
http://www.panynj.gov/business-oppor...s-awarded.html

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Old April 8th, 2011, 02:24 AM   #972
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There is no shortage, New York Crane/Lomma was "black listed" by the Port Authority. (It all stems from the two crane accidents in 2008.)

Because the PA is a government agency alot of info is available on line, if one knows where to look.

This is but one place to start.
http://www.panynj.gov/business-oppor...s-awarded.html
How does that explain the 5 NY Crane/Lomma cranes on site.
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Old April 8th, 2011, 02:49 AM   #973
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How does that explain the 5 NY Crane/Lomma cranes on site.
I think you should go back and study current photos of the site. I see one NYC/Lomma crane on site.

Keep in mind, the 16000 and the 18000 were not relettered. (They were both bought by DCM. Or if not bought outright, ownership was transfered.)

The only cranes I see onsite still lettered for NYC/ Lomma are the 16000 the 18000 and one Favco at the T 4 site.

HUGE note, the new tower crane at the T3 site is lettered for Federated Equipment, AKA DCM. I have yet to see who has the contract to do the steel erection, but NYC/Lomma is no where to be seen.

Or, you could just go to the list of approved subs for the PA and note that NYC/Lomma has been removed.

All this stuff is available online, all one has to do is look.

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Old April 8th, 2011, 04:30 AM   #974
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*The following information was last updated on April 6, 2011

Receiving steel deliveries at Vesey Street inside fence
Structural steel complet up to 1st floor
Concrete installation at grade to be complete in spring 2011
Utilities installation; core form erection
Two cranes active on site
Foundation work at the T2 site began in summer 2010. It is expected to be complete to grade by mid-2012.
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Old April 8th, 2011, 10:23 AM   #975
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I think you should go back and study current photos of the site. I see one NYC/Lomma crane on site.


The only cranes I see onsite still lettered for NYC/ Lomma are the 16000 the 18000 and one Favco at the T 4 site.
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So that's three.. and I now see they repainted the two on top of WTC one...

If only everything in life was that easy.. thanks for your help.
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Old April 8th, 2011, 10:45 AM   #976
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Foundation work and footings preparations at the T2 site began in summer 2010. It is expected to be complete to grade by 2013.
So finally they changed this outdated information we were discussing some time ago and replaced it with a more ambitious goal
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Old April 8th, 2011, 01:04 PM   #977
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That is amazing! Thanks for keeping the information coming
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Old April 8th, 2011, 08:03 PM   #978
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There is no shortage, New York Crane/Lomma was "black listed" by the Port Authority. (It all stems from the two crane accidents in 2008.)

Because the PA is a government agency alot of info is available on line, if one knows where to look.

This is but one place to start.
http://www.panynj.gov/business-oppor...s-awarded.html
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How does that explain the 5 NY Crane/Lomma cranes on site.

From what I am told from the boys at NY Crane/Lomma, the cranes that were already on site/planned to be on site were 'grandfathered' in. Lomma was banned from bringing any additional equipment on site.


And like Zen said, the 16/18 and others have been bought on a rental/lease-purchase agreement by DCM from NYcrane/Lomma. (if the cranes are going to pay for themselves in rental, you might as well gain an asset and put the depreciation on your books).

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Old April 8th, 2011, 08:18 PM   #979
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oh and the building is looking great
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Old April 10th, 2011, 01:24 AM   #980
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From what I am told from the boys at NY Crane/Lomma, the cranes that were already on site/planned to be on site were 'grandfathered' in. Lomma was banned from bringing any additional equipment on site.


And like Zen said, the 16/18 and others have been bought on a rental/lease-purchase agreement by DCM from NYcrane/Lomma. (if the cranes are going to pay for themselves in rental, you might as well gain an asset and put the depreciation on your books).
Excellent followup, you answered some of my questions.

Personally, I think the PA was rather quick to remove NYC/Lomma from the list. Clearly one of the accidents had nothing to do with the crane itself.

Further, the Favco's that NYC/Lomma brought to the WTC site were brand new fresh off the boat from Down under. (The cranes on the Tower One site actually have consecutive serial numbers.)

The whole "Buy American" thing may also be a factor.
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