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Old December 19th, 2011, 09:39 PM   #1681
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I still do not understand what will happen to this building in the short term. I mean we heard about it being a 'retail stub', but that would require a first floor and a roof of some kind. You can't just put a temporary roof on, can you? I see that the concrete forms for the core are above street level. Will this area just be walled off?
The wording from PA board meetings is a bit vague. They hint at some temporary mech equipment and an "architectural" wall. I think there will still need to be some public access to the below ground retail and transit hub. But I really doubt we'll see a large scale stump.
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Old December 20th, 2011, 12:15 AM   #1682
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i dont see them continuing past where they are right now. This tower is still subject to significant design changes based on the market conditions, especially if the owner gets impatient.

they wouldnt build the podium and open it to retail with that risk.
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Old December 20th, 2011, 12:54 AM   #1683
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i dont see them continuing past where they are right now. This tower is still subject to significant design changes based on the market conditions, especially if the owner gets impatient.

they wouldnt build the podium and open it to retail with that risk.
They have to build it up to ground level, as it has a lot of connections with the Transit Hub. And no one has ever said they're going to build retail here until a tenant is signed. It's to street level give or take with no tenant or build the whole thing with a tenant.

Also, there is zero evidence that this will undergo any design change. Tower 3 was slightly redesigned to lower costs so that it could be built sooner, this has already been value engineered with cost in mind. Don't just make stuff up.
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Old December 20th, 2011, 09:41 PM   #1684
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Exactly. The original designs by Libeskind and Childs were truly sick
But at least not the boring blue-glass walled box that we have today. Foster seems to be the only one who broke free of this North American cliché.
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Old December 20th, 2011, 09:53 PM   #1685
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 06:43 PM   #1686
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Are we really doing this again! This project has been wrapped up in red tape, up until 2006 they were still searching for body parts so the buildings couldn't start. There were a ton of redesigns. And on top of everything else the complex is being built over a vital subway that links NYC to NJ and each of these buildings has to be bomb-proof. If it takes 13 years to finally finish one tower so what!

It took China like 15 years to build the Shanghai World Financial Center, are you really telling me they could do 4 towers in 2 years at that rate! NO, so shut up about it already.
Right. China with it's crackpot quality control and lack of building safety codes. It's easy to throw up a 100 story scraper that way. The real shame is that American money is building those towers in China instead of Chicago, Philadelphia, Houston, Dallas or NYC.

China is in trouble folks. Get off the bandwagon. Their stock market is down 20%. The have a huge housing bubble. High inflation. Labor rate is going up and manufacturing is starting to leave. Companies are wising up and do not wish to hand over intellectual property and 50% ownership to the commies. Interior poverty is not improving.

IF the current US administration had any balls they'd go after China for their currency manipulation and tax Chinese exports. Great fair trade deal. It's only good for one side. They are building totally unoccupied ghost cities so they can lie about their GDP.

The towers are great but are mostly symbolic just like Dubai. You can't tell they are empty during the daytime.
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Old January 5th, 2012, 05:07 PM   #1687
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I just noticed that over the last week or so they have covered over the pedestrian walkway on the north side of the WTC 2. Interesting!

Obviously this would be done with above ground work on the tower starting but how much? I find it intriguing that they have done it now when all signs pointed to the tower going on hold once at grade. Would they do this now if the tower was going to be capped off and put on hold?

Have a look. What do you think?

Image via KPI TV Cam: http://www.video-monitoring.com/cons...itv/silver.htm
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Old January 5th, 2012, 05:17 PM   #1688
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Very interesting. Maybe it was just an oversight of a requirement. I mean the crane can obviously swing stuff over that area, and must have a protected pedestrian walkway.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 05:31 AM   #1689
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WHOA! Sweet photo! Have they reached grade yet?
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Old January 13th, 2012, 06:25 AM   #1690
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WHOA! Sweet photo! Have they reached grade yet?
Yep, they've reached the lobby floor and are currently pouring concrete for that floor. However it is unknown if they will continue with the rest of the tower after that.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 12:11 PM   #1691
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from wtc.com (already a few days old, but stunning details)

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Old January 13th, 2012, 12:34 PM   #1692
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that would be so bad when the best project of the new wtc would go on hold
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Old January 13th, 2012, 03:47 PM   #1693
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^ Yeah, this tower's design is my favorite of the 4. Too bad it's going on hold later.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 05:22 PM   #1694
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As long as it's not cancelled, I'm releived...hope work will resume in the next few months.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 05:27 PM   #1695
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The building will rise to the top, since there's office space to recover, the real question is when and how will Silverstein attract tenants.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 03:48 PM   #1696
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lol, that slideshow is almost seizure causing with its ameteurish use of every photo transition available in whatever program was used to make it. There were a few interesting photos, but they flashed by in 2 seconds. Nice to see some waterfall footage though.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 02:42 AM   #1697
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Concrete is still being poured.. how great would it be to wake up in a few days and see a couple steel columns reaching way up high..
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Old January 17th, 2012, 04:23 AM   #1698
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Old January 17th, 2012, 05:36 PM   #1699
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Nice. This one is just brilliant:

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