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Old March 14th, 2012, 04:22 PM   #1761
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Yup... as I suspected they are removing all form work from a site
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Old March 15th, 2012, 03:07 AM   #1762
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The southwest corner of the core is taller than the rest of the core. I find it odd that they're leaving it uneven.

And I read that they're suppose to remove the cover over the sidewalk soon. They just put that up, what, about three or four months ago?
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Old March 15th, 2012, 04:03 AM   #1763
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The southwest corner of the core is taller than the rest of the core. I find it odd that they're leaving it uneven.

And I read that they're suppose to remove the cover over the sidewalk soon. They just put that up, what, about three or four months ago?
The WTC is a sea of temporary structures. They are always putting things up, only to remove them a short time later. Maddening.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 05:37 PM   #1764
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this is my favorite tower of this complex, yet it takes the longest to finally rise
Since WTC2 is Silverstein's favorite tower, it will definitely be built as soon as they find a tenant. If they had built this tower first, the final design and height of towers 3 and 4 would possibly have been compromised. So basically, this is a good thing, because we're certain that the entire WTC site will be built as it was meant too, although not as quickly as we would like to see it.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 11:20 PM   #1765
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After WTC3's exterior trusses were removed and the building shortened, I think most people prefer WTC2 over all the rest.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #1766
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That probably would be right.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 09:51 PM   #1767
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This is my favorite building of the WTC complex. I can not wait to come to the tower top
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Old March 17th, 2012, 05:44 PM   #1768
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and how about the photos?
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Old March 17th, 2012, 06:26 PM   #1769
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From lowermanhattan.info:

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*The following information was last updated on March 16, 2012.

Crane removal planned for the weekend of March 31-April 1
Setting steel columns, installing form work and rebar
Utilities installation
Receiving steel and concrete deliveries at Vesey Street inside fence
Crane active on site
2 WTC is expected to be complete to street level by late summer 2012.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 07:41 PM   #1770
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Earlier than I thought. I wasn't expecting it till May or June.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 08:06 PM   #1771
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Earlier than I thought. I wasn't expecting it till May or June.
Seemed early to me too, thought they might use it as they cap the structure, etc. Removal of the crane seems to remove that (perhaps foolish) fleeting hope that a last minute deal, tenants, something might keep this thing going skyward. Hope we don't have to wait too long - excited to see this one!
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Old March 17th, 2012, 08:11 PM   #1772
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All signs point to a surge in new office jobs over the coming years, and there are still a ton of huge leases set to expire around the city. Just be patient people.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 09:22 PM   #1773
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I thought this thing was going to 5 stories above street level before being capped - or was that just WTC 3?

This site has seemed to have a lot of visible progress recently.

I am not optemistic about this going up soon. Lots of new buildings coming on line - WTC 1 and 4, the one on 55th street, the east 57th street building that will start soon, the International Gem Center, etc. I think the new building on 42nd and 8th across from the bus terminal is still largely vacant.

I would think this one will be done between 5 and 10 years from now.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 10:00 PM   #1774
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I thought this thing was going to 5 stories above street level before being capped - or was that just WTC 3?

This site has seemed to have a lot of visible progress recently.

I am not optemistic about this going up soon. Lots of new buildings coming on line - WTC 1 and 4, the one on 55th street, the east 57th street building that will start soon, the International Gem Center, etc. I think the new building on 42nd and 8th across from the bus terminal is still largely vacant.

I would think this one will be done between 5 and 10 years from now.
Just 3WTC is getting a podium. It still has two more floors to rise. T2 getting a podium was just a rumor.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 11:00 PM   #1775
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I thought this thing was going to 5 stories above street level before being capped - or was that just WTC 3?

This site has seemed to have a lot of visible progress recently.

I am not optemistic about this going up soon. Lots of new buildings coming on line - WTC 1 and 4, the one on 55th street, the east 57th street building that will start soon, the International Gem Center, etc. I think the new building on 42nd and 8th across from the bus terminal is still largely vacant.

I would think this one will be done between 5 and 10 years from now.
What office building on 57th St?

The Port Authority is not actively shopping the upper office floors of 1 WTC because they want $100 a sf, 250 W 55th St is largely full, and the Gem Tower loses its tax breaks if less than 65% of it is leased to non diamond related businesses.

Plus, this building will likely need an anchor tenant of around 1M sf, which is literally not available anywhere in the city in a single building. So even if Morgan Stanley wanted to move into 250 W 55th, or that building on 42nd and 8th it couldn't because the buildings are just not big enough if they were empty, which they aren't.

What's slowing the WTC's leasing process down, is not a lack of demand, but a lot of supply, which are two different things. The Hudson Yards and Manhattan West have shown they're able and willing to offer lower rents than Silverstein can offer at the WTC. But this building along with 3 WTC, has massive trading floors that financial firms need, and aren't available at the Yards or Manhattan West. Also, almost 90% of Manhattan's commercial real estate predates 1970, so there's plenty of pent up demand, but there are just a lot of potential destinations for companies looking to move.

The list below has been floating around for a while, and doesn't reflect all the companies looking for space. I have a friend at Studley, and while these things are confidential she's told me this list isn't even close to being complete. Milbank needs new space, and a major move by UBS, Merril Lynch, and/or Societe Generale wouldn't be surprising. I don't mean to call you out in particular, I'm just a little more confident in this being leased I guess.

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Old March 19th, 2012, 01:55 AM   #1776
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Just 3WTC is getting a podium. It still has two more floors to rise. T2 getting a podium was just a rumor.
That sucks. Podiums seem to take a long time so even when they re-start this it will probably take a year before it gets into the rapid ascent phase that many of us like
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Old March 19th, 2012, 01:59 AM   #1777
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What office building on 57th St?
The one on East 57th that is going where the old high school is being torn down.


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What's slowing the WTC's leasing process down, is not a lack of demand, but a lot of supply, which are two different things.
I think that is what I was trying to say. There is a lot of supply coming on the market now. And I wasn't even thinking of Hudson Yards and the huge tower where the hotel Pennsylvannia is.

This stuff will all get built - eventually. But it may take 15 or 20 years just like the full Time Square build out did.
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Old March 19th, 2012, 02:03 AM   #1778
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I like this; it's really elegant. I think I actually prefer it to 1WTC. Hopefully next time I visit New York, the whole complex will be finished. Will there be any viewing galleries in any of these buildings?
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Old March 21st, 2012, 03:40 PM   #1779
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 09:47 PM   #1780
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What exactly are the long spikes that look sort of like rivets popping out of the big steel I-beams? What will they attach to and why are they on the entire I-beam rather than just where it will attach to stuff?
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