NZ | Population Statistics Thread

[KiwiGuy]

Originally Posted by otumoetaiNZ

Yup plenty of haters outside auckland but the truth is that if you want to be really successful business then auckland is where you need to be! Its just jealousy.

Actually, it's more of you protraying some sort of superiority complex. Auckland I can handle.

[GI_Joint]

Works both ways otumoetaiNZ, we have idiots who hate Auckland for no reason, jealousy etc and folks like you who thinks the rest of the country is insignificant.

[Blah]

Would love for Auckland to get a 200m+ tower, but there's so much red tape here that by the time they are approved we will be celebrating the 22nd century.

[GI_Joint]

Kiwi red tape...sigh, there's just so many layers to cut through. By the time the tape is finally cleared, 1 person will object because that crane could be unsightly then all of a sudden there's 5 more layers.

[greenwelly]

Originally Posted by Blah

Would love for Auckland to get a 200m+ tower, but there's so much red tape here that by the time they are approved we will be celebrating the 22nd century.

While it is easy to blame red tape in delaying buildings, the economics of new constructions also have to be practical....

It was not Red Tape that killed off Elliot Tower, it was the GFC,
The building was essentially fully consented and ready to roll at the end of 2008.

[DML2]

Originally Posted by greenwelly

It was not Red Tape that killed off Elliot Tower, it was the GFC,
The building was essentially fully consented and ready to roll at the end of 2008.

And SkyCity didn't help if I recall correctly

[IThomas]

[Londonlad]

Originally Posted by greenwelly

While it is easy to blame red tape in delaying buildings, the economics of new constructions also have to be practical....

It was not Red Tape that killed off Elliot Tower, it was the GFC,
The building was essentially fully consented and ready to roll at the end of 2008.

Agreed it was the GFC that killed this project,but according to my sources the party will be on again once confidence in the market returns(christ knows when).Obviously there is a huge housing shortage in Auckland so I believe there would have been demand for this type of thing.Who agrees that if the Elliot had been built it would have been fully tenanted by now.Sales of the individual apartments in the building would have been another matter.

[SYDNEY]

Originally Posted by Londonlad

Agreed it was the GFC that killed this project,but according to my sources the party will be on again once confidence in the market returns(christ knows when).Obviously there is a huge housing shortage in Auckland so I believe there would have been demand for this type of thing.Who agrees that if the Elliot had been built it would have been fully tenanted by now.Sales of the individual apartments in the building would have been another matter.

Yup, our sources say the same and there is rumour that The Elliott could break ground in May - hell I hope that they are true ... now for other news:

Auckland welcomes its 1.5 millionth citizen

The Mayor has welcomed the baby chosen as Auckland’s 1.5 millionth citizen this morning at Middlemore Hospital. Ramonah Patience Toomalatai was born a healthy 9 pounds 9 ounces at 4.36am in Middlemore’s Maternity Ward to proud parents Sulia and Tutasi Toomalatai. “Ramonah may have been four days overdue but she was right on time to reach this significant milestone for Auckland,” says Len Brown. The Toomalatai family live in Panmure and Ramonah joins her sister to Janelia (6) and brother Patrick (4). Both her parents are Samoan born; her mother Sulia grew up in Tauranga and her father Tutasi moved to New Zealand eight years ago.

Statistics New Zealand determined that the 1.5 millionth Aucklander would arrive today and would most likely be a baby rather than a migrant due to existing growth patterns. Population growth in Auckland has exceeded that of other New Zealand centres over the last 60 years and reached 1 million in the mid-1990s. Auckland is now home to 34 per cent of New Zealand’s population according to 2011 figures with estimates suggesting Auckland could reach 2 million before 2031. “Our challenge is to ensure that by the time we reach the 2 million mark we can look back and know we made the right decisions, the tough decisions and built an Auckland that Ramonah will be proud of.”

[Blah]

Great news if true.

Once one big tower is built, it could open the door for others.

[Dazzle]

Let it be, Let it be ... the Elliott that is

[otumoetaiNZ]

Originally Posted by GI_Joint

Works both ways otumoetaiNZ, we have idiots who hate Auckland for no reason, jealousy etc and folks like you who thinks the rest of the country is insignificant.

When did i say the rest of the country is insignficant? We need people to raise cows and tend crops, but if you want to be involved in business, finance, culture and all that stuff then you need to be in the city and there really is only one real city in nz and thats auckland. Its just being realistic.

[Blah]

Originally Posted by otumoetaiNZ

When did i say the rest of the country is insignficant? We need people to raise cows and tend crops, but if you want to be involved in business, finance, culture and all that stuff then you need to be in the city and there really is only one real city in nz and thats auckland. Its just being realistic.

That's ridiculous.

[cambennett]

Originally Posted by Dazzle

Let it be, Let it be ... the Elliott that is

This is from Queen City Law's website regarding Elliot Tower (updated December):

Spearheading the Resource Consent process for the project currently known as the Elliott Tower (Auckland CBD). Resource Consent for this proposed NZ$450M project was finally obtained after a contestable process.Queen City Law was intricately involved in the appointment and co-ordination of the team which comprised New Zealands leading architects (Mollers), planners (Barker & Associates), urban designers (Transurban), construction representatives (Brookfield Multiplex), traffic engineers (Connell Wagner and Traffic Planning Consultants Limited), communications experts (Kordia), RMA Barrister Russell Bartlett and others.

The project represents the largest high rise project ever seen in New Zealand (67 levels representing over 90,000m2 of improvements) and our office is conveniently located next to the development site.

This project is now moving in to the building consent phase and it is currently anticipated that the sales, financing and construction phases will be activated in parallel so that construction may commence in 2013.Queen City Law will continue to play a central role.

[DML2]

[Dazzle]

Originally Posted by cambennett

This is from Queen City Law's website regarding Elliot Tower (updated December):

Thanks very much for that!!
Hopefully we will have the Population (trying to get back on thread ) to fill it if it is indeed built...

[GI_Joint]

Originally Posted by otumoetaiNZ

When did i say the rest of the country is insignficant? We need people to raise cows and tend crops, but if you want to be involved in business, finance, culture and all that stuff then you need to be in the city and there really is only one real city in nz and thats auckland. Its just being realistic.

Hmm you're right, with James Cameron moving to a farm in the Wairarapa, the guys and girls at Weta can get off their bums to help raise those cows and tend them crops.

[NZ1]

Originally Posted by GI_Joint

Hmm you're right, with James Cameron moving to a farm in the Wairarapa, the guys and girls at Weta can get off their bums to help raise those cows and tend them crops.

Personally, I'm still waiting for the uproar about a rich foreigner buying up more productive land. The silence has thus far been deafening.

[KiwiGuy]

Originally Posted by GI_Joint

Hmm you're right, with James Cameron moving to a farm in the Wairarapa, the guys and girls at Weta can get off their bums to help raise those cows and tend them crops.

Y'all got a fine point there. I should be out in them fields tending them sheep and keepin' them ******s out. *Spits out tobbaco* But I just cain't get off this com-pu-ter. Now I ain't rich or nothin' or educashid but I cain't see what this city slicker is on about.

He really shouldn't commenting on the rest of the country if his impresion of provincial New Zealand is Gisborne. It'd be like me saying that the rest of New Zealand is exactly like Motueka, or Blenheim.

[MelboyPete]

Bring on Elliot