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Well, to be fair they don't seem to ask for great design from every application - it would be nice to think they were expecting high standards of design across the board.
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Good news and fingers crossed
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Will we get a radical re-design ?
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Previous planning approval for 4 nasty light fittings ;-) at this ground was rejected last time.
![]() This time round the management at the ground wants to install 5 much taller and nastier floodlights at a height of 58m (188ft), with panels of 10x5m (30x15ft), more or less the size of the 'side of a house' in mid-air. ![]() This will look awful (especially with the new pavillion) and degrade the area including house prices (resident concerns), just because the management wants to install the cheapest and brightests lights available plus use them for non-cricket events. I am hoping the planning application will be rejected and they realise if they put forward an aesthetic proposal the local community will support it like the main ground development. Buildings and structures should enhance areas! |
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I'm sure if they develop the main Pavillion, install 'polarised/filtered floodlights' on the stands and have six 'telescopic' panel floodlights (similar to the temporary mobile floodlights they use now), it would be approved and look nicer.
When I was a child I use to love going to this ground, I'm really hoping they wont spoil it. |
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Modern purpose-built floodlights would have far less light spill than generic hired ones. Tbh local residents would be far better off fighting for these assurances than objecting to the scheme - the cricket ground is world famous and needs the upgrade so it will happen, but they can ensure that the impact is minimised.
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Again, in the current climate the council won't turn this down. They can't afford the city to lose such a high profile event for the sake of residents complaining about 10 nights out of 365 when the floodlights are on.
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Interestingly, if the council can find the money for the cricket ground then they should be able to meet their part for the Metro . We have heard that the council will have to provide around 40 million .
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Oh dear
£32m Edgbaston redevelopment fails to get planning permission Apr 8 2009 by Paul Dale People power has brought a massive £32million makeover of the Edgbaston cricket ground to a shuddering halt. Angry residents packed a meeting of Birmingham City Council planning committee to complain that the scheme would make their lives intolerable. They said the project, which includes permanent floodlighting, new stands, a housing development and hotels, is too large and will cause traffic chaos. Councillors agreed and refused to grant planning permission. They deferred a decision and urged the club to talk to residents about ways in which the proposal might be toned down. The committee also ordered council transportation officials to conduct traffic impact surveys. The decision, against the advice of planning officials who recommended approval, will alarm the council’s Conservative-Liberal Democrat cabinet which agreed to lend Warwickshire County Cricket Club £20million toward the cost of the work. City council leader Mike Whitby has identified improvements to Edgbaston as a key pillar in Birmingham’s attempts to lure international sport to the city. But cabinet approval for the loan, two days before the planning committee meeting, angered residents who described the move as a “cynically-timed decision”. Club officials insist ground improvements are essential if Edgbaston is to continue to stage Test cricket and lucrative Twenty20 night-time matches. But the scheme has stirred up an avalanche of public protest and the council received more than 60 letters of objection. Cannon Hill Neighbourhood Forum chairman Leo Nation said a similar proposal involving permanent floodlighting had been rejected by the council eight years ago – a decision upheld by a government planning inspector. Mr Nation said: “Each of the pylons will be as tall as a 20 storey building and each light panel as big as the side of a house. A source of civic pride and beauty would become an eyesore dominating the landscape for ever. “There will be more light pollution and major disruption to the natural ecology.” Coun Paula Smith (Lib Dem Hall Green) said: “If the cricket club had met with local people from day one we wouldn’t be in this position now. “This scheme raises many concerns, not least the hotels and the houses.” WCCC chief executive Colin Povey insisted glare from the new floodlights would not be as great as the existing temporary floodlights, which the club can continue to use without obtaining planning permission. http://www.birminghampost.net/news/n...name_page.html |
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Oh dear... goodbye test cricket in Birmingham.
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Not quite but I am shocked. There is a bit of a rebellion in the Tories and I think this is a warning shot (unless the committee is mostly non-tory of course!).
I can't believe that the scheme didn't include a traffic impact assessment so deservedly needs to be deferred. They can't get rid of the floodlights though - they are crucial!
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Thank God! Get some decent looking architecture here!
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Architecture is realtive. The key thing here are the floodlights, as this is the profit making part of the game.
I really don't understand the complaints for the floodlights. They will be used for 4/5 hours for 8/10 nights of the year. You live by one of the worlds most famous sporting venues, what do you expect. Although to leave out the traffic impact thing does seem a little shortsighted. |
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i can confirm the architecture of the staduim would have nothing to do with this scheme,..... the floodlights are the dealbreaker for local residents. they can not stand the idea of having floodlights near them and as such have opposed the scheme every which way they know how....
the irritation is that the cricket ground has been there a lot longer than most residents have, many of which will have moved in knowning about the cricket ground however, depending on what the council committee report states, and as it was reccomended for approval, they will have very good grounds for appeal... it is times like this that i dispise the planning committee. which i agree there needs to be a democratic system in place in the planning system, this is stupid. how on earth does damn councillor smith of HALL GREEN have the right to stop development in EDGBASTON? she is ellected by those in hall green and therefore should only be there to represent the constituents of hall green.
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It MUST happen, but hopefully they can find a win-win situation.
It doesn't help that the boss of Edgbaston has spat his dummy out in today's Post. He is trying to use the scare tactic of "we have to be upgraded by 2011 and we are behind other clubs. Well he should have considered redevelopment earlier than this then shouldn't he?
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