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Old November 21st, 2008, 09:08 PM   #21
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those look neat. but L.A.'s Breda fits here better. Those look good for Phoenix which is a relatively new looking downtown, but our neighborhoods have seen the times.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 09:41 PM   #22
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What do you think?
I think that ones a bus and the other is a train. What's your point?

Although the Orange Line buses look a bit like the Breda trains.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 09:55 PM   #23
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Weird. I think those new phoenix trains look like they're from the 80s. Not new looking at all. I think the Breda cars are by far the nicest looking light rail trains I've ever seen.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 10:41 PM   #24
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I love that retro look!! luv 'em! Almost art-deco.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 11:07 PM   #25
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Weird. I think those new phoenix trains look like they're from the 80s. Not new looking at all. I think the Breda cars are by far the nicest looking light rail trains I've ever seen.
That award easily goes to Charlotte.

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Old November 22nd, 2008, 12:34 AM   #26
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I took the new cars and I hate the seating. It's shoulder to shoulder with the seats in there! Though the new cars are really nice, the seats feel a lot smaller than the older cars. Besides that, they're really nice.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 12:56 AM   #27
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^ Yeah, that's the general complaint people have about the new Breda cars. The Siemens cars are wider, allowing for wider seats.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 07:06 AM   #28
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And more room to store your bike! Sorry Klams
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 09:00 AM   #29
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I took the new cars and I hate the seating. It's shoulder to shoulder with the seats in there! Though the new cars are really nice, the seats feel a lot smaller than the older cars. Besides that, they're really nice.

^ How is the leg room?

I've actually taken the Blue/Green Line before and there's no leg room. My knee caps were hitting the back of the seat. Not a very comfortable ride whatsoever!!!!!!
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 09:55 AM   #30
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Good job LA! You guys got the better Breda cars, the ones in SF are ugly but were only recently put into place about 5 years ago. I wish Muni Metro allowed bikes but it gets too damn crowded!
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 06:50 PM   #31
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^ How is the leg room?

I've actually taken the Blue/Green Line before and there's no leg room. My knee caps were hitting the back of the seat. Not a very comfortable ride whatsoever!!!!!!
The leg room is tight. I was surprised because this is a newer vehicle that they were going to use the thinner, lighter and stronger seat backs that they have on the newer buses. That adds an extra 1 1/2" of leg room without adjusting the seats.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 07:18 PM   #32
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Yep, the cars are much more narrower and it's harder to store your bike on the train but I really like the darker feel of these new cars.
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The leg room is tight. I was surprised because this is a newer vehicle that they were going to use the thinner, lighter and stronger seat backs that they have on the newer buses. That adds an extra 1 1/2" of leg room without adjusting the seats.
^ It's a tight fit, we should have ordered the American Version Fleet (bigger). Maybe we got the Asian version for smaller people...
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 06:11 AM   #34
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i don't understand how the vehicles themselves can be narrower. is there a larger gap now between the platform and the train? were the platforms widened? what are the dimensions of the new cars and the old ones?
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 09:07 AM   #35
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i think what's important is the use of the train and not the design. Although at most, the design comes in handy as it adds charm to train and it blends well to the beauty of LA.`
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..like, we don even care if they run.. s'long as they look good, what everrrrr
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Old November 24th, 2008, 02:11 AM   #38
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i don't understand how the vehicles themselves can be narrower. is there a larger gap now between the platform and the train? were the platforms widened? what are the dimensions of the new cars and the old ones?

The exterior width is the same, but the interior width is narrower due to thickness of the sidewalls, insulation.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 02:30 PM   #39
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Old November 24th, 2008, 02:48 PM   #40
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What do you think?
They both have accordion bellows in the middle but the breda car looks more like the orange line bus minus the bellows.
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