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View Poll Results: Who should host the 2015 and 2019 Rugby World Cups?
2015: England - 2019: Italy 9 11.25%
2015: England - 2019: Japan 14 17.50%
2015: England - 2019: South Africa 5 6.25%
2015: Italy - 2019: Japan 12 15.00%
2015: Italy - 2019: South Africa 6 7.50%
2015: Japan - 2019: Italy 9 11.25%
2015: Japan - 2019: South Africa 5 6.25%
2015: South Africa - 2019: Italy 8 10.00%
2015: South Africa - 2019: Japan 12 15.00%
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Old June 14th, 2008, 01:21 AM   #41
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Yes Canada! I actually want to attend a Canada-Argentina match tomorrow but I might not have the time! AHHHH! :gah:
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Old June 15th, 2008, 01:30 AM   #42
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italy/portugal/spain etc won't host the rwc for a very long time. rugby isn't even professional in spain/portugal

it basically alternates between europe and the southern hemisphere although japan could get one really soon

don't think canada would have the interest
I disagree with you on Italy - I think the extra seating brought in at the Stadio Flaminio this year for the games against England and Scotland are testament to how the game is growing in Italy. I also think the traveling support from British and Irish sides when they've drawn Italian sides in the Heineken Cup, not to mention in the 6 Nations (mostly proved, I think, by the massive percentage of Irish fans in Rome on St. Patrick's Day 2007) proves that the traveling support is there to make the tournament a big success. I'd say Italy will have a strong shout, especially if we're dealing with 2027 onwards.

The game isn't professional in Spain or Portugal yet but both are big growth / potential growth markets for the game. Portugal, especially, have come a long way on the pitch in the past few years and their support has increased considerably. From my own experiences, there is a lot of passion for the sport in Spain and, again, that will grow with improved onfield performances from the Spanish side. Both of these nations have put up good showings in a couple of 7s tournaments this season.

As I said on Canada; I think the contribution this nation has made to hosting the lower levels of international tournament in the past few years and the crowds that have come out for those indicate that there is a market for the sport in Canada. The Canadian team has improved considerably in recent times. If Canada can coax one of the big Northern Hemisphere sides to come play a couple of tests in Canada during the Lions Tour next summer, a la Japan v Ireland in 2005 then I think we'll really see the kind of support rugby can generate in Canada.

The said, in reflection and with reference to my original list, it would be more realistic for Japan in 2019 and Canada in 2031.

Charlie, I can't see England hosting a tournament before Ireland have hosted a final, to be honest - it will have been a long time since England hosted a final by the time it gets another chance but the history of Rugby World Cups in the UK and Ireland are such that a nation puts on the final and stadia come from all around the country. I'd say Ireland will be offered the chance to host the final before England are again. Although, given the relatively low capacity of the new Lansdowne Road and the relatively huge capacity of Croke Park, a final could pose an interesting dilemma for the IRFU. I agree, however, that Scotland will probably be the next official hosts of the rugby world cup from the Celtic Nations.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 03:09 AM   #43
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Artifitial turf is even anoying in football, when u slide takle of fall down.
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Old June 16th, 2008, 06:06 AM   #44
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seeing as how the irbs power base is in the northern hemisphere it is almost certian that either the 2015 or 2019 world cup will be in europe. rugby is a growing game and while a world cup in somewhere like canada/usa is not going to happen in the short term it could well happen in the long run.
artificial turf is here to stay and will appear in rugby world cups, artificial turf is used in places in the usa (entirely colleges just using football facilities, but does show that it can be used) and we could well see artificial turf in the 2011 world cup in dunedin
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Old June 16th, 2008, 06:08 AM   #45
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depends on the type of artificial turf

the one that was used in moscow might be allowed, but the american plastic ones are just too dangerous.
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Old June 16th, 2008, 07:35 AM   #46
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depends on the type of artificial turf

the one that was used in moscow might be allowed, but the american plastic ones are just too dangerous.
the stuff in moscow is the exact same stuff used in the US
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Old June 16th, 2008, 07:37 AM   #47
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seeing as how the irbs power base is in the northern hemisphere it is almost certian that either the 2015 or 2019 world cup will be in europe. rugby is a growing game and while a world cup in somewhere like canada/usa is not going to happen in the short term it could well happen in the long run.
artificial turf is here to stay and will appear in rugby world cups, artificial turf is used in places in the usa (entirely colleges just using football facilities, but does show that it can be used) and we could well see artificial turf in the 2011 world cup in dunedin
what do you mean about colleges? I dont understand
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Old June 16th, 2008, 12:35 PM   #48
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colleges with rugby teams use football facilities due to a lack of resources, as one would expect for a sport with such a small following
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Old June 18th, 2008, 08:58 AM   #49
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the rugby world cup won't be in the usa or canada for a while because theres not enough public interest

that was probably the reason why japan failed.
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Old June 18th, 2008, 09:57 AM   #50
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the rugby world cup won't be in the usa or canada for a while because theres not enough public interest

that was probably the reason why japan failed.
probably. i think the IRB likes to stick to its more stable markets like NZ, England, South Africa, Australia and mainland Europe.

Personally i think we will see SA, Aus, British Isles and Japan host a RWC before the US/Canada.

as for the events size...taking into account audience, crowds, marketing etc it certainly slots in 3rd. Olympic Games, FWC, IRB RWC, Commonwealth Games, Euro, ICC CWC.

It's difficult to judge the "size" of the winter Olympics. It really depends on the host nation ie; the US (SLC) compared to Lillehammer (Norway) or Turin (Italy).
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Old June 19th, 2008, 04:18 AM   #51
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south africa/japan 2015
england 2019
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Old June 19th, 2008, 05:11 AM   #52
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south africa/japan 2015
england 2019
either japan or south africa? or hosted together ()
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Old June 19th, 2008, 05:23 AM   #53
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Japan is very serious about rugby. They were terribly disappointed having lost to NZ for RWC 2011 (which was couped!). Japan should get it next time round. Then, Id like to see go to Argentina, Italy and Germany. The Rugby giants (SA, Austr, NZ, UK, France) should step aside and assist the smaller countries in hosting the event.
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One question. Is there any professional league of rugby in USA?
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Old June 19th, 2008, 09:14 AM   #55
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No, not of either code. Most people don't even realize the difference anyway.
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Old June 19th, 2008, 11:46 AM   #56
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I really think it should go to Argentina at some point. I don't know how big the sport is their or if it has a Rugby Union league set up, but this country's Rugby is on the up and up so they should be contenders.
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No, not of either code. Most people don't even realize the difference anyway.
The Super Rugby League is a semi-pro union league in the US...its not very popular, and im sure most have never heard of it
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Old June 19th, 2008, 12:24 PM   #58
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I really think it should go to Argentina at some point. I don't know how big the sport is their or if it has a Rugby Union league set up, but this country's Rugby is on the up and up so they should be contenders.
rugby is an amateur game in argentina but i think it's pretty popular, especially if the national team is winning. i think the match between boca and river plate was moved so that ppl could watch both the derby and the semi final involving argentina and south africa
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Old June 20th, 2008, 05:19 AM   #59
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The Super Rugby League is a semi-pro union league in the US...its not very popular, and im sure most have never heard of it
I just heard of it a couple weeks back when the final was aired live on ESPN Classic. It looks decent, but I prefer league from the clips I've seen from Australia and England. That seems like a more exciting game. It would have a better chance of catching on over here, if anything.
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