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Old December 7th, 2008, 07:09 PM   #61
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1- Hong Kong - Emporis say's that the city has 7,626 highrises, probably has about 8 thousand

2- São Paulo - Emporis: 5,453, Total probable number: 30.000-40.000

3- Shanghai - Emporis: 940 , Total probable number: 3.000-4.000

4- Shenzhen - Emporis: 347 , Total probable number: ~2.000

5- New York - Emporis: 5,597 (more than any mainland chinese city)
What kind of bullshit made-up list is this? These are your estimates based on pictures from SSC, or what?

Sao Paolo is probably the city that currently has the highest amount of highrises. Although, several Chinese cities will overtake it in the upcoming decade.
The cities with the most highrises in the world should be Seoul, Sao Paolo, Beijing and Shanghai (in no particular order).

I don't get why cities like Chicago or Toronto are even mentioned in a thread like this. They might rank decently on Emporis because of the sole fact that there are no editors to add buildings from a majority of developing countries, particularly China. There are probably 25-30, if not more, cities in mainland China that have more highrises (+12) than Toronto or Chicago. Add to that other Asian cities such as Bangkok and Tokyo.
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Old December 8th, 2008, 06:40 PM   #62
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Interestingly, whilst it doesn't have a continuous build up as Sao Paolo does, would Mumbai be a contender?
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Old December 9th, 2008, 03:59 AM   #63
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What kind of bullshit made-up list is this? These are your estimates based on pictures from SSC, or what?

Sao Paolo is probably the city that currently has the highest amount of highrises. Although, several Chinese cities will overtake it in the upcoming decade.
The cities with the most highrises in the world should be Seoul, Sao Paolo, Beijing and Shanghai (in no particular order).

I don't get why cities like Chicago or Toronto are even mentioned in a thread like this. They might rank decently on Emporis because of the sole fact that there are no editors to add buildings from a majority of developing countries, particularly China. There are probably 25-30, if not more, cities in mainland China that have more highrises (+12) than Toronto or Chicago. Add to that other Asian cities such as Bangkok and Tokyo.
when it all comes down to it the only city in america that can even be on the top of that list is new york city i mean theres nothing but skyscarpers and highrises all over the place
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Old December 9th, 2008, 02:42 PM   #64
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In Moscow 2114 highrises
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Old December 14th, 2008, 09:17 PM   #65
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That video posted in other tread is a very interesting show of São Paulo apparent infinite number of highrises:
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Planes fly low on that city:



And a large version of a previos posted pic:

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Old December 16th, 2008, 02:35 PM   #67
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Here's a small list with some cities I made a few days ago

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I thought it was fun to look this up. I looked at every city diagram of the following cities on Skyscraperpage.

The information of the status (u/c or proposed) is from Skyscraperpage. It's possible that something is missing (a diagram of a building).

Rotterdam
50m - 100m = 97
U/C 50m - 100m = 18
Proposed 50m - 100m = 7
100m - 200m = 15
U/C 100m - 200m = 2
Proposed 100m - 200m = 9
200m+ = 0
U/C 200m+ = 0
Proposed 200m+ = 2

Frankfurt
50m - 100m = 118
U/C 50m - 100m = 1
Proposed 50m - 100m = 1
100m - 200m = 22
U/C 100m - 200m = 4
Proposed 100m - 200m = 7
U/C 200m = 0
200m+ = 4
Proposed 200m+ = 3 (including 300m+)

Warsaw
50m - 100m = 70
U/C 50m - 100m = 5
Proposed 50m - 100m = 3
100m - 200m = 15
U/C 100m - 200m = 2
Proposed 100m - 200m = 11
200m+ = 2
U/C 200m+ = 0
Proposed 200m+ = 5

Madrid
50m - 100m = 100
U/C 50m - 100m = 2
Proposed 50m - 100m = 2
100m - 200m = 12
U/C 100m - 200m = 2
Proposed 100m - 200m = 0
200m+ = 4
U/C 200m+ = 0
Proposed 200m+ = 0

London
50m - 100m = 422
U/C 50m - 100m = 9
Proposed 50m - 100m = 30
100m - 200m = 33
U/C 100m - 200m = 6
Proposed 100m - 200m = 33
200m+ = 1
U/C 200m+ = 4
Proposed 200m+ = 5

Paris
50m - 100m = 350
U/C 50m - 100m = 0
Proposed 50m - 100m = 2
100m - 200m = 71
U/C 100m - 200m = 1
Proposed 100m - 200m = 3
200m+ = 1
U/C 200m+ = 1
Proposed 200m+ = 6

(Hong Kong has 104 buildings between 50-100m and 306 between 100-200m. New York has 2,513 buildings between 50-100m and 604 between 100-200m.)
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Old December 17th, 2008, 02:49 AM   #68
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yes, in terms of # of diagrams.
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Old January 13th, 2009, 01:03 AM   #69
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Shanghai, cheers to Staff.

Bear in mind this is just the Puxi side, the Pudong half is mostly out of shot:

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Old January 13th, 2009, 02:02 AM   #70
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Very nice photo. Proof of why I believe Shanghai is one of the top contenders.

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I don't get why cities like Chicago or Toronto are even mentioned in a thread like this. They might rank decently on Emporis because of the sole fact that there are no editors to add buildings from a majority of developing countries, particularly China. There are probably 25-30, if not more, cities in mainland China that have more highrises (+12) than Toronto or Chicago. Add to that other Asian cities such as Bangkok and Tokyo.
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Old January 13th, 2009, 10:54 AM   #71
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Sao Paulo has the most high rise buildings
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Old January 13th, 2009, 01:19 PM   #72
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the most impressive pic of this thread is this (imo)



sao paulo already had an amazing skyline in the forties.

(btw is that a comet gowing down on the city in the upper right?)
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Old January 13th, 2009, 01:28 PM   #73
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I would have to say New York city has the most skyscrapers.. after that it would probabaly be Chicago, and then dubai etc
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Old January 13th, 2009, 05:28 PM   #74
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Shanghai has over 3000 buildings over 400ft, planned to rise to 4000 by 2010.
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Old January 13th, 2009, 05:47 PM   #75
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I´m a Sao Paulo resident and i personally think that the 30.000-40.000 number for highrises for Sao Paulo is utopic.
Considering that a building must have at least 11 floors to be considered a highrise, Emporí´s statistics seem to be almost accurate, putting Hong Kong first, Sao Paulo second and New York third:

(comp - completed; u/c - under construction)
Hong Kong - comp: 6453 u/c: 114 Total: 6567
Sao Paulo - comp: 5428 u/c: 577 Total: 6005
New York - completed: 5344 u/c: 163 Total:5507
Singapore - completed: 4077 u/c: 174 Total: 4251
Seoul - completed: 2776 u/c: 23 Total:2799
Rio de Janeiro - completed: 2370 u/c 120 Total:2490
Tokyo - completed: 2345 u/c: 28 Total:2373
Istambul - completed: 2100 u/c: 196 Total: 2296
Moscow - completed: 1973 u/c: 80Total: 2053
Buenos Aires - completed: 1647 u/c: 52 Total: 1699

But, considering low-rises, or buildings with more than 4 floors, then the number for Sao Paulo is definetely more than 30.000. I remember that in July of 2008 (last year) the City Hall published a pool about buildings security in a famous brazilian newsmagazine (Veja) and they stated that there were, at that time, 32.000 buildings in the city, counting low and high rises. And there are new buildings under construction all over the city, (not only in two or three key zones), what makes the building density of this city something really impressive.

As for the skyscrapers, taking again the Emporis statistics, that consider them as buildings with more than 80m (35 floors), probably Sao Paulo does not appear among the top 10, ranking somewhere between 13-16th.

Interesting to notice that, although there are height restrictions in the biggest brazilian cities (and the lack of tall buildings), Brazil is the only country with two cities among the ten, proving that the building business is booming here, despite those law limitations.

And correcting the information above, Shangai has 1196 completed buildings and 121 under construction (Total: 1317), taking the 14th place overall, but most of them are really big skyscrapers higher than 200 m
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I dont get it where is Shanghai? All these news sources reference Emporis


International Herald Tribune, 2005, http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/10/...ness/boom.php:

"This year alone, Shanghai will complete towers with more space for living and working than there is in all the office buildings in New York City. That will happen in a city that already has 4,000 skyscrapers, almost double the number in New York. And there are designs to build 1,000 more by the end of this decade."


Bloomberg 2005, http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...fer=news_index

"Shanghai, the nation's commercial capital, built 6,704 towers of 11 or more stories since 1990, city government figures for 2004 show -- 4,312 of them in the past five years. New York has 5,467 buildings of 12 stories or more, according to Emporis."

OhMyNews, http://english.ohmynews.com/articlev...55010&rel_no=1

"Shanghai already has 4,000 skyscrapers, almost double than in New York. As if all this were not enough, there are projected to be about 1,000 more by the end of the decade."
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Old January 13th, 2009, 11:07 PM   #77
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ok, I´ve got your point. Checking those articles also confused me for a while.

According to Emporis, Shangai is in 14th place with 1196 completed and 121 u/c - Total:1317.

I strongly believe that IHT and Ohmynews information is incorrect. How can Shangai have 2 times the number of NY´s buildings ? only 2000 skyscrapers for NY ? No way.

Probably their sources are counting lowrises too, or they´re counting all the buildings inside Shangai´s metropolitan area (which includes some other cities), that would explain the numbers.

Anyway, I do agree that Shangai has a beautiful and impressive skyline, but unlike Hong Kong, NY and Sao Paulo, most of their investment in highrises are concentrated in very few regions, while in those other cities you can find highrises almost everywhere.

PS.: I know that many people doubt about Emporis´ statistics, but I believe it´s the most accurate source of statistics about construction in the internet, since they count with the support of many companies around the world to get all data.
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oh, I forgot to mention, but in those articles they used Emporis just as a reference for data about NYC, not Shangai. They surely got Shangai´s data from somewhere else (or from the Government of China, who knows?)

I´ve just send an email to Emporis reporting this, let´s wait and see what they have to say about Shangai
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Old January 13th, 2009, 11:45 PM   #79
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This thread's point, if I understand correctly, is to measure the average skyline height of a city, meaning (the sum of the height of all the buildings)/(the number of all the buildings). This might be quite interesting indeed, I suggest going here to :http://www.diserio.com/top15-skylines.html
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I strongly believe that IHT and Ohmynews information is incorrect. How can Shangai have 2 times the number of NY´s buildings ?
Shanghai probably has more than 2 times the number of buildings NY has. Anyone who has been to both cities will notice the difference easily. Unfortunately this is the common idea people have. I guess Emporis is the most authoritative source currently, even though it is far from correct.

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Anyway, I do agree that Shangai has a beautiful and impressive skyline, but unlike Hong Kong, NY and Sao Paulo, most of their investment in highrises are concentrated in very few regions, while in those other cities you can find highrises almost everywhere.
Shanghai has highrises everywhere. Over a much larger area than NY or Hong Kong.
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