What is the best transit solution for the Valley? - Page 2

milquetoast · December 1st, 2009, 03:09 PM

Monorails from Warner to Pacoima

yeah!

Westsidelife · December 1st, 2009, 03:11 PM

^ I can't decide if klam is the one who's giving or receiving?

milquetoast · December 1st, 2009, 03:17 PM

You're about as bad as Ferns- get your mind outta the gutter!

pesto · December 1st, 2009, 07:27 PM

From my knowledge of the Valley, I would think there is no chance that new surface rails would be permitted anywhere. The general belief is that tracks are associated with poor parts of town, and that is just what they moved to the Valley to escape, whether they came from the east, midwest or south.

So the solution is going to have to be subway, existing tracks, tracks in the middle of freeways, or buses.

milquetoast · December 2nd, 2009, 08:50 AM

That should extend down Ventura is my guess, but they've been talking about that for years.

croyboy · December 4th, 2009, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pesto

From my knowledge of the Valley, I would think there is no chance that new surface rails would be permitted anywhere. The general belief is that tracks are associated with poor parts of town, and that is just what they moved to the Valley to escape, whether they came from the east, midwest or south.

the valley isn't supreme like they used to think they were. if exposed tracks are associated with crappy parts of town, then the valley fits the part.

TonyW79SFV · December 5th, 2009, 11:20 PM

http://www.metro.net/news_info/press/Metro_195.htm

New Metro Line 902 Pacoima <-> NoHo

For those on Van Nuys Boulevard that wants convenient connections to the Metro Red Line, the Orange Line hassle doesn't cut it. The original Metro Rail plans called for the Red Line to travel as surface with strategic elevated crossings over Sepulveda and Van Nuys Blvds, but we all knew those plans were politically scrapped. This would have made a trip from Van Nuys a one transfer ride, the Orange Line added an extra transfer. So now enter Metro Line 902; duplicating Metro 233, then express on Burbank with one stop at Valley College and destined to North Hollywood. So it's easier to just extend/modify the bus than the subway. It'd be interesting to see how the Orange Line's ridership numbers go if this line is successful (setup currently as peak hour only with full time service if approved for June 2010), considering Van Nuys Orange Line station is the second busiest Orange Line station. And don't count the park & riders, there aren't that many cars parked in Van Nuys' 776 spot lot unlike NoHo's perpetually full 803 free lots (298 paid lots).

klamedia · December 6th, 2009, 07:27 PM

In 20 years time as the rest of LA comes up to speed with rail and more and more places realize viibrant destinations like Hollywood and Vine in Hollywood and Wilshire/Western in Koreatown, the Valley will still be stuck with only "fast" buses.

Westsidelife · December 6th, 2009, 07:45 PM

^ Double standard much?

phattonez · December 6th, 2009, 08:42 PM

Do you two ever stop fighting?

Westsidelife · December 6th, 2009, 10:46 PM

^ I'm ready to reconcile when klam is ready to.

CaliLove24 · December 7th, 2009, 06:54 AM

I'd say Light rail!!

jchernin · January 3rd, 2010, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klamedia

From "Wad" at the Transit Coalition:

Valley Orthodox Jews spoke out against pushing crossing buttons on the sabbath on nightly news and area residents complained about future noise, pollution and traffic the busway would cause. [/I]

seriously, the best argument against transit ever

(i can say that cuz im jewish)

klamedia · January 3rd, 2010, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westsidelife

^ I'm ready to reconcile when klam is ready to.

I've held out an olive branch before and all I got back was a wet noodle.

klamedia · January 3rd, 2010, 08:06 PM

Die Valley Die!

LAmarODom420 · January 4th, 2010, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klamedia

Die Valley Die!

Fern~Fern* · January 6th, 2010, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milquetoast

You're about as bad as Ferns- get your mind outta the gutter!

Fern~Fern* · January 6th, 2010, 10:18 PM

What about adding double lane/elevated carpool lanes on the 134/101 between the 170 and pass Fallbrook Ave to alleviate some congestion on this corridor...

***soup or man*** · January 7th, 2010, 12:35 AM

If Birmingham, Alabama can propose this for their downtown, I don't see why the Valley can't do something similar.

Hell..San Bernardino is proposing and construction a BRT.

If the Valley doesn't want light rail, fine. Nothing wrong with a modern and efficient BRT.

LAmarODom420 · January 8th, 2010, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soup or man

If Birmingham, Alabama can propose this for their downtown, I don't see why the Valley can't do something similar.

Hell..San Bernardino is proposing and construction a BRT.

If the Valley doesn't want light rail, fine. Nothing wrong with a modern and efficient BRT.

Buses kill our children, like light rail. Only private cars with one person driving [hours] from their [underwater mortgage] suburban home to their [meaningless] jobs are safe [not involving scary minorities or poor people].

View Poll Results: What is the best transit solution for the Valley?
Rapid transit	8	14.55%
Light rail transit	33	60.00%
Bus rapid transit	9	16.36%
Commuter rail	5	9.09%
Nothing	0	0%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

December 1st, 2009, 03:11 PM	#22
Westsidelife LAL / LAK / LAD Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,787 Likes (Received): 6	^ I can't decide if klam is the one who's giving or receiving? __________________ "I'm an LA guy, can't help it." -- Tiger Woods

December 5th, 2009, 11:20 PM	#27
TonyW79SFV Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Los Angeles (Arleta) Posts: 11 Likes (Received): 0	http://www.metro.net/news_info/press/Metro_195.htm New Metro Line 902 Pacoima <-> NoHo For those on Van Nuys Boulevard that wants convenient connections to the Metro Red Line, the Orange Line hassle doesn't cut it. The original Metro Rail plans called for the Red Line to travel as surface with strategic elevated crossings over Sepulveda and Van Nuys Blvds, but we all knew those plans were politically scrapped. This would have made a trip from Van Nuys a one transfer ride, the Orange Line added an extra transfer. So now enter Metro Line 902; duplicating Metro 233, then express on Burbank with one stop at Valley College and destined to North Hollywood. So it's easier to just extend/modify the bus than the subway. It'd be interesting to see how the Orange Line's ridership numbers go if this line is successful (setup currently as peak hour only with full time service if approved for June 2010), considering Van Nuys Orange Line station is the second busiest Orange Line station. And don't count the park & riders, there aren't that many cars parked in Van Nuys' 776 spot lot unlike NoHo's perpetually full 803 free lots (298 paid lots). Last edited by TonyW79SFV; December 5th, 2009 at 11:28 PM.

December 6th, 2009, 07:27 PM	#28
klamedia Silver Lake Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 5,006 Likes (Received): 14	In 20 years time as the rest of LA comes up to speed with rail and more and more places realize viibrant destinations like Hollywood and Vine in Hollywood and Wilshire/Western in Koreatown, the Valley will still be stuck with only "fast" buses. __________________ "Self defense is not violence" - Malcolm X "I love Los Angeles. I love Hollywood. They're so beautiful. Everything's plastic, but I love plastic. I want to be plastic." - Andy Warhol Minimum parking standards are fertility drugs for cars. - Donald Shoup

December 6th, 2009, 07:45 PM	#29
Westsidelife LAL / LAK / LAD Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,787 Likes (Received): 6	^ Double standard much? __________________ "I'm an LA guy, can't help it." -- Tiger Woods

December 1st, 2009, 03:09 PM	#21
milquetoast L O S A N G E L E S Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Henderson NV Posts: 5,287 Likes (Received): 23	Monorails from Warner to Pacoima yeah!

December 1st, 2009, 03:17 PM	#23
milquetoast L O S A N G E L E S Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Henderson NV Posts: 5,287 Likes (Received): 23	You're about as bad as Ferns- get your mind outta the gutter!

December 1st, 2009, 07:27 PM	#24
pesto Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,147 Likes (Received): 26	From my knowledge of the Valley, I would think there is no chance that new surface rails would be permitted anywhere. The general belief is that tracks are associated with poor parts of town, and that is just what they moved to the Valley to escape, whether they came from the east, midwest or south. So the solution is going to have to be subway, existing tracks, tracks in the middle of freeways, or buses.

December 2nd, 2009, 08:50 AM	#25
milquetoast L O S A N G E L E S Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Henderson NV Posts: 5,287 Likes (Received): 23	That should extend down Ventura is my guess, but they've been talking about that for years.

December 6th, 2009, 08:42 PM	#30
phattonez Bleed Dodger Blue Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The City of Angels Posts: 1,843 Likes (Received): 0	Do you two ever stop fighting? __________________ "[G]overnment does not have the power to encourage one branch of production except by curtailing other branches." "A wicked man puts up a bold front, but an upright man gives thought to his ways." - Proverbs 21: 29 Beer, Guns, and Baseball Take Down All Stop Lights

December 6th, 2009, 10:46 PM	#31
Westsidelife LAL / LAK / LAD Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,787 Likes (Received): 6	^ I'm ready to reconcile when klam is ready to. __________________ "I'm an LA guy, can't help it." -- Tiger Woods

December 7th, 2009, 06:54 AM	#32
CaliLove24 City-data mods.. Terrible Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Los Angeles/LA Metro/ OC/Irvine Posts: 9 Likes (Received): 0	I'd say Light rail!! __________________ Lakers Champs 2 peat 08-10

January 3rd, 2010, 08:06 PM	#35
klamedia Silver Lake Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 5,006 Likes (Received): 14	Die Valley Die! __________________ "Self defense is not violence" - Malcolm X "I love Los Angeles. I love Hollywood. They're so beautiful. Everything's plastic, but I love plastic. I want to be plastic." - Andy Warhol Minimum parking standards are fertility drugs for cars. - Donald Shoup

January 6th, 2010, 10:18 PM	#38
Fern~Fern* Inquiry Within... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Currently residing in the good Ol' IE until something else arises from the horizon. Posts: 7,424 Likes (Received): 8	What about adding double lane/elevated carpool lanes on the 134/101 between the 170 and pass Fallbrook Ave to alleviate some congestion on this corridor... __________________ You're so FAKE that you should have two Facebook accounts, one for each face.... ~~By Fern to the Fern*

January 7th, 2010, 12:35 AM	#39
*soup or man* Diamondz... Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 3,384 Likes (Received): 35	If Birmingham, Alabama can propose this for their downtown, I don't see why the Valley can't do something similar. Hell..San Bernardino is proposing and construction a BRT. If the Valley doesn't want light rail, fine. Nothing wrong with a modern and efficient BRT. __________________ My strap on my vibrator about to bust a rhyme no violator. I feel myself I'm a masturbator.

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