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Old November 25th, 2008, 03:54 AM   #1
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HONG KONG | Hutchison House Redevelopment | 185m+ | 47 fl | App

Just read the news today. They're finally redeveloping this building.






The site is owned by Hutchison Whampoa so the name may stay. This building is currently 23 floors, and they're building a 47-storey Grade-A office building replacement. Square footage will increase by 37% up to over 490,000 sq ft. It has 180-degree harbor views and is one of the few projects expected to be available in the coming 3 years.

和 記 大 廈 獲 批 建 47 層 甲 廈
和 黃 持 有 的 中 環 和 記 大 廈 , 獲 批 重 建 為 一 幢 四 十 七 層 高 甲 廈 。
  (星島日報報道)由和黃持有中環老牌甲級商廈和記大廈剛獲批重建,可由現時的二十三層商廈,重建為四十七層高的甲廈,總樓面大增三成七、至逾四十九萬方呎,若發展商落實重建,料將成為中區未來三年唯一的甲廈新供應,業界人士更預期,以重建物業擁開揚海景計算,質素將媲美區內頂級甲廈,令物業租值大幅提升。

  屋宇署公布上月獲批建築圖則,顯示位於夏檙道十號的和記大廈,獲批建四十七層高的商廈,總樓面將達四十九萬三千四百九十六方呎;現時該廈樓高二十三層,每層面積約為一萬五千六百二十五方呎,整幢大廈的總樓面為三十五萬九千三百七十五方呎,重建後,樓層將增加逾一倍,令大廈景觀更開揚,物業面積亦大增三成七。本報就有
關消息致電和黃查詢,惟至截稿時未獲回覆。

  和記大廈樓齡已達三十四年,由於為中環最早發展的商廈之一,故高度與鄰近的甲級商廈相比「矮了一截」。美聯商業董事黃漢成表示,現時該廈的租戶以律師行及投資公司為主,每方呎租金約六十餘元水平,若以實用面積計算,每方呎租金約八十至一百元,較今年高位已回落一成;由現時該區整體商廈售價下跌,拖累租金亦同步下調,預料於明年年中前,整區租金尚有最少一成跌幅。

  事實上,中環區內甲級寫字樓未來新供應短缺,加上區內屬本港傳統商業中心區域,存在大量需求,惟該區已發展成熟,新供應極為珍罕,如和記大廈重建,甚有可能成為該區未來三年唯一的甲廈新供應,黃漢成解釋指,除在勾地表內的中環街市舊址用地外,該區現時基本上未有新用地可作全新甲級商廈發展之用,可見供應甚為緊絀。

  第一太平戴維斯投資部資深董事袁志光指出,受金融風暴影響,整個中區的甲廈租金較年初高位時期下跌一成至一成半,惟不少大型公司近日開始撤出核心區域,預料該區甲廈的租金於明年仍有下調壓力。

  袁氏續稱,雖然甲廈租金開始進入萎縮期,但每一個經濟循環周期約三年,倘若和黃選擇於明年進行和記大廈的重建工程,剛好可以趁租金下跌時施工,待升級工程於兩至三年完成後,便可以全新甲廈的姿態迎接新一輪黃金周期,並收取更高租金,於投資角度而言,回報更高。
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Old November 25th, 2008, 06:18 AM   #2
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I don't read Chinese... is the new building still going to be called Hutchison House?
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Old November 25th, 2008, 01:22 PM   #3
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I don't read Chinese... is the new building still going to be called Hutchison House?
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The site is owned by Hutchison Whampoa so the name may stay. This building is currently 23 floors, and they're building a 47-storey Grade-A office building replacement. Square footage will increase by 37% up to over 490,000 sq ft. It has 180-degree harbor views and is one of the few projects expected to be available in the coming 3 years.
47 floors eh? Slim chance the building could hit 200m?

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Old November 25th, 2008, 01:26 PM   #4
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According to the following pictures...





...an increase to 47 floors (approximately twice the current height, if the size of the floors remains the same as it currently is, which I presume it would not) would make it just a wee bit smaller than the AIG building - THUS SEVERELY OBSCURING AND FURTHER OBSTRUCTING THE BANK OF CHINA BUILDING!
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Old November 25th, 2008, 05:15 PM   #5
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According to the following pictures...





...an increase to 47 floors (approximately twice the current height, if the size of the floors remains the same as it currently is, which I presume it would not) would make it just a wee bit smaller than the AIG building - THUS SEVERELY OBSCURING AND FURTHER OBSTRUCTING THE BANK OF CHINA BUILDING!
What's your point? It's not like you wouldn't be able to see the Bank of China building at all...
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Old November 25th, 2008, 05:47 PM   #6
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That you wouldn't be able to see BoC's angles, as you clearly can in the two pictures above, even from an elevated level.

BoC's angles are a large part of what makes the building unique. Taking it away from a rather common vantage point is not cool, to put it mildly.
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Old November 26th, 2008, 01:24 AM   #7
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I think the BOC will blend in more that way. I don't like the 2IFC effect... taller buildings should be further inland.
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Old November 26th, 2008, 02:02 AM   #8
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First the Furama Hotel, then the old Ritz-Carlton, and now Hutchison House is gonna depart this life? We're gonna be seeing three office towers on the former (or soon to be former) site of two old hotels and a highrise office building.
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BoC's angles are a large part of what makes the building unique. Taking it away from a rather common vantage point is not cool, to put it mildly.
Agree. It's going to be mostly covered up front. But this is the price for progress. Wish they had built BOC right on the shoreline.
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Old November 26th, 2008, 08:11 AM   #10
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I agree also, but I'd be a hypocrite to be opposed to this while criticizing the NIMBYs that are sprouting up in HK. As long as the building is not massive, it shouldn't distract one's view from the BoC too much.

I definitely agree with the IFC POV though, something needs to be built to cover IFC up and blend it into the skyline.
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Old November 26th, 2008, 08:30 AM   #11
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About time this ugly thing gets torn down!
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Old November 27th, 2008, 04:57 AM   #12
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中環和記大廈重建後料租值升
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星島日報

和黃持有中環老牌甲廈和記大廈剛獲批重建,由現時的二十三層商廈,重建為四十七層高的甲廈。據該公司年報顯示,現時物業總樓面為五十萬三千七百一十五方呎,而重建後面積為四十九萬三千四百九十六方呎,減少一萬零二百一十九方呎。

業內人士指,若發展商落實重建,料將成為中區未來三年唯一的甲廈新供應,業界人士更預期,以重建物業擁開揚海景計算,質素將媲美區內頂級甲廈,令物業租值大幅提升。

現樓面為50.3萬呎

屋宇署公布上月獲批建築圖則,顯示位於夏愨道十號的和記大廈,獲批建四十七層高的商廈,總樓面將達四十九萬三千四百九十六方呎;現時該廈樓高二十三層,重建後景觀更開揚。

和記大廈樓齡三十四年,由於為中環最早發展的商廈之一,故高度與鄰近的甲級商廈相比高度較低。美聯商業董事黃漢成表示,現時該區甲廈的租戶以律師行及投資公司為主,每方呎租金約六十餘元水平,若以實用面積計算,每方呎租金約八十至一百元,較今年高位已回落一成;預料於明年年中前,整區租金尚有最少一成跌幅。
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Er wrong thread? That's the Ritz Carlton?
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Er wrong thread? That's the Ritz Carlton?
Fixed ... took the photo on the wrong side of AIG.
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That's a great pic. I can't wait to follow this one. Just coz of the location this is gonna be the next major project to watch over :-D
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I agree also, but I'd be a hypocrite to be opposed to this while criticizing the NIMBYs that are sprouting up in HK. As long as the building is not massive, it shouldn't distract one's view from the BoC too much.

I definitely agree with the IFC POV though, something needs to be built to cover IFC up and blend it into the skyline.
There will be a building built in front of 2ifc in the future, right at where the bus station is at now.


For Hutchison house plan, doubling the number of floors, and only increasing the floor space by 37%. I think that suggests it will be a thinner building than now. Here is why

New building: 493496 sq ft GFA/ 47 floors = 10499 sq ft per floor

Existing building: 359375 sq ft GFA/ 23 floors = 15625 sq ft per floor
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That's great observation Vincent. I would like a thinner and taller building.
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