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Old September 10th, 2009, 06:47 AM   #281
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Old September 10th, 2009, 07:41 PM   #282
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Old September 11th, 2009, 07:46 PM   #283
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Old September 12th, 2009, 01:29 AM   #284
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Sometimes along interstate 81 i see multiple identical trucks, usually 2 or 3 brand new ones, hooked up to another identical truck like trailers, using the trailer hitch to link them together - I don't have any images, but how common is this?
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Old September 12th, 2009, 09:25 AM   #285
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Old September 12th, 2009, 05:36 PM   #286
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Sometimes along interstate 81 i see multiple identical trucks, usually 2 or 3 brand new ones, hooked up to another identical truck like trailers, using the trailer hitch to link them together - I don't have any images, but how common is this?
What section of I-81? I have never seen what you describe, but chances are your travels take you near a truck factory, which is not surprising if you are on the southern/mid sections of I-81.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 06:39 PM   #287
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Sometimes along interstate 81 i see multiple identical trucks, usually 2 or 3 brand new ones, hooked up to another identical truck like trailers, using the trailer hitch to link them together - I don't have any images, but how common is this?
I think that that is 'SOP' for delivering new cabs to truck dealers as well as to major trucking companies. I often see that here.

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Old September 12th, 2009, 06:44 PM   #288
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Old September 13th, 2009, 03:17 AM   #289
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It looks like we will be getting bigger trucks here in Victoria (Australia), with conditions that limit this to certain vehicles that meet specific safety standards, and restrictions to routes and times that also keep them out of peak hour. In Victoria (as in the rest of Australia) trucks can travel at up to 100km/h and there are no restrictions as to lane use on freeways.

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Roads and Ports Minister Tim Pallas today released guidelines for the cutting-edge trial of longer B-double trucks to significantly improve the way goods are moved around the state.

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Mr Pallas said the trial would allow B-doubles, capable of carrying two 40-foot containers, on to key metropolitan freeways that link the Port of Melbourne with major industrial areas in the west and north of Melbourne, and certain roads around Portland in south western Victoria.

"Victoria’s freight task is expected to double in the next 20 years and High Productivity Freight Vehicles (HPFV) could be an important way to tackle that freight task, reduce traffic congestion, reduce emissions and keep the cost of our goods down," he said.

"These larger vehicles can carry 30 per cent more freight, which will reduce the number of trucks needed on our roads to perform the same freight task. The efficient movement of freight is crucial to Victoria’s economic growth and social wellbeing."

From today, operators can start using the routes outlined in the two year trial. The trial will take place between the Melbourne Port and western and northern metropolitan freight areas mainly along the West Gate Freeway, Western Ring Road and Hume Freeway up to Somerton.

Mr Pallas said the trial would also run in the Green Triangle around Portland mainly on the Princes and Henty Highways, with the Brumby Labor Government committing $5 million to boost road infrastructure in the region.

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The longer B-doubles have additional axles and can carry heavier loads on approved routes. A B-double with one quad-axle group can carry up to 72.5 tonnes and a B-double with two quad-axle groups up to 77.5 tonnes, compared to a standard B-double – permitted up to 68.0 tonnes.

Mr Pallas said road safety would also be improved with the trial vehicles having to pass 16 rigorous road safety standards, including ABS brakes requirements and front, side and rear under-run protection, as part of the national Performance-Based Standards process.
Road trains are longer and heavier than this, but are not permitted in Victoria at all, and generally not within the more densely populated parts in other states.
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Old September 13th, 2009, 07:34 PM   #290
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They have been trialling those combos around Footscray for about 12 years now, maybe more. It's also the same in Sydney atm they are restricted to the roads around Port Botany.

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Old September 13th, 2009, 07:40 PM   #291
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Poland is now running a trial with 14.9 meter trailers (49 foot). I believe regular European trailers are 13.6 meters, so it's not a big improvement. They won't be longer than the existing 18.75 m truck-trailer combo's
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Every extra foot of space makes a difference to the revenue earned and where your transporting say groceries and continually run the trailers full it becomes very worthwile to get an extra 2 pallet spac. es.
The down side is due to a maximum combination length the prime movers used get shorter and less stable and more uncomfortable to drive. In fact I believe they become dangerous, but extra profit is king .. right.

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Old September 14th, 2009, 10:13 PM   #293
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You mean the total allowed length isn't longer with a 14,9m trailer? Then how the hell will you get a decent sleep cabin when you've got only 1,60m between the front of the trailer and the front of the truck?
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Old September 14th, 2009, 10:32 PM   #294
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You need special permit, a pilot and you have to transport it during the night.(I'm not sure about the last one, but surely in extreme cases)
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Old September 14th, 2009, 10:34 PM   #295
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I think it's ridiculous to enforce 16.5 meter lengths in Europe for international trucking. This leads to very small cabs for drivers, especially those who are away from home for several days or even weeks. American cabs are much more comfortable. The amount of space they have is sometimes 3 - 4 times bigger than European cab-overs.

I think they should put limits on trailer lengths only, not on the cab. Especially with those long-haul truckers who drive mainly on freeways and main roads, it doesn't really matter if a truck is 16.5 m or 18.5 m.

City distribution is a whole other thing, cab-overs are clearly in advantage in such environments.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 11:22 PM   #296
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There's only one problem. Parking spaces on rest areas are usually not made for some extra meters length. However, if a 18,75 combination with cabover fits, why wouldn't a 18,75 combination of torpedotruck + trailer fit?

It's a pity Volvo and Scania stopped producing torpedo trucks for the european market. Currently, there's only one real european torpedotruck, which is the Iveco Strator.

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Those are called "conventionals" in North America. Cab-overs used to be popular in N.A. until the 70's, when limitations were dropped, and everybody switched to conventionals. Now the cab-overmarket is primarily in Europe and some Asian countries.

Conventionals are now getting increasingly better fuel economy, and consume as much as European cab-overs at somewhat higher speeds. Under 70 mph, a constant speed is a larger factor to fuel economy than the speed itself. Try a road with a roundabout every 500 meters with a truck. The fuel consumption is off the charts at such roads.

How about these sleepers?
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Here is a new American one for comparison's sake



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Old September 15th, 2009, 12:49 AM   #299
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Those are called "conventionals" in North America. Cab-overs used to be popular in N.A. until the 70's, when limitations were dropped, and everybody switched to conventionals. Now the cab-overmarket is primarily in Europe and some Asian countries.

Conventionals are now getting increasingly better fuel economy, and consume as much as European cab-overs at somewhat higher speeds. Under 70 mph, a constant speed is a larger factor to fuel economy than the speed itself. Try a road with a roundabout every 500 meters with a truck. The fuel consumption is off the charts at such roads.

How about these sleepers?
Thats a really old truck, with a really old paint job, but its still a REALLY nice truck.
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Wow, I always wanted to be truck driver.
Now it is probably to late to start.
Ech, pity.

By the way, I used to hitchhike a lot in the past. My favorite options were always trucks even if they were slower than normal cars.
I don't hitchhike too often nowadays but from time to time I wouldn't mind to join some trucker on some trips.
Is there any online forum where you can hook up with truck drivers traveling particular routes?
I used to go to big motorway service station and just ask truckers where they go hoping for lift. I would be perfect to find someone going in particular direction in advance.

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