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Old February 11th, 2009, 02:38 PM   #161
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The European parliament wants to vote for a proposal to kill the European freight sector.
well, maybe they are right.

euthanasia is much better than a long painful agony...
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Old February 11th, 2009, 02:48 PM   #162
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The Green Group said the Parliament has "missed a big chance" to make Europe's transport policy "really sustainable". "The price for health damage, environmental damages or accidents will still have to be carried out by the public and this also means the further unacceptable promotion of the ever growing truck avalanche," said Eva Lichtenberger (Austria) und Michael Cramer (Germany).
I suggest these Greenies will stop buying food and stuff right now, in order to stop the truck avalanche.

The thing is, we need these trucks, how unpleasant they may be. No trucks no food.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 06:18 PM   #163
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The European parliament wants to vote for a proposal to kill the European freight sector. It's about the Eurovignette which would cause truck tolls up to 65 cents per kilometer. This is on top of several environmental tolls several countries already have.

What is the purpose of this? There's no alternative than truck freight in Europe on a large scale, this will only cause inflation due to rising prices for every good, and more and more freight transport companies will go bankrupt. Lesson one in "How Europe killed freight transport".
If there's absolutely no choise on avoiding it, it won't hurt that hard since every company has to calculate it into their prices.
The real kill for the european freight transport will be in 2011 when, as far the plans are right now, the 48h workweek will be introduced...

But yes, it's sick that the consumer has to take this kind of green shit (can't find any better words for this), just to make the transport sector think that they "hurt" so much.

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Old February 11th, 2009, 06:42 PM   #164
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The Green Group said the Parliament has "missed a big chance" to make Europe's transport policy "really sustainable". "The price for health damage, environmental damages or accidents will still have to be carried out by the public and this also means the further unacceptable promotion of the ever growing truck avalanche," said Eva Lichtenberger (Austria) und Michael Cramer (Germany).
OMG, get some brains or die dickhead maniacs! That's what these idiots are best with. Taxing the crap out of people without providing sensible solution or alternative.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 07:58 PM   #165
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Mega-truck crossing São Paulo, Brazil.





Is really huge!!!

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Old March 19th, 2009, 08:26 PM   #166
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Some things I noticed on my trip today;

23,40 meters... Most longer-than-usual trucks are 25,25m. Haven't seen this before. Location: A28 motorway, Zwolle.
[IMG]http://i44.************/2ugcdmp.jpg[/IMG]

Shouldn't the load be more covered? Air was filled with twigs of hay.
[IMG]http://i43.************/2likmxw.jpg[/IMG]

Lithuanian truck with new cars... You can see the economic growth of those countries, since 2 years Baltic trucks with new cars are common on the Dutch roads.
[IMG]http://i41.************/28tku87.jpg[/IMG]

This guy from Istanbul is approximatly 2,400 kilometers from home sweet home...
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I don't see British trucks very often in NL... We're not really a big transit country for those guys (Belgium is more important for the British.)
[IMG]http://i40.************/nvtu1h.jpg[/IMG]

Russian truck from Moscow (77).
[IMG]http://i40.************/zwjh5h.jpg[/IMG]
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Old March 19th, 2009, 08:58 PM   #167
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this lorry which carries 2 containers is really unusual and impressive!
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Old March 19th, 2009, 09:25 PM   #168
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Lithuanian truck with new cars... You can see the economic growth of those countries
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Old March 19th, 2009, 10:22 PM   #169
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this lorry which carries 2 containers is really unusual and impressive!
Twin-trailer rigs are very common here in the USA, but aside from travel between major terminals and customers, containers in the USA normally go by rail using double-stack railcars.

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Old March 19th, 2009, 10:28 PM   #170
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Some things I noticed on my trip today;
Shouldn't the load be more covered? Air was filled with twigs of hay.
[IMG]http://i43.************/2likmxw.jpg[/IMG]
Hehehehehehe. Some things just don't change with a change of continent.



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Lithuanian truck with new cars... You can see the economic growth of those countries, since 2 years Baltic trucks with new cars are common on the Dutch roads.
[IMG]http://i41.************/28tku87.jpg[/IMG]
Aside from going between major terminals and the dealers, cars and light trucks normally travel cross-country by rail in the USA and Canada. The fully-enclosed railcars that they use are long and *TALL*, too (think: 'taller than double-stacked containers').

If they are particularly valuable cars (ie, expensive European imports), the highway car-carrier trucks/lorries that transport them here in the USA are fully enclosed, too.

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Old March 19th, 2009, 10:30 PM   #171
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We don't do much by rail in Europe when it comes to freight. Most capacity is taken by passenger trains, and the distances are shorter, so trucks are more efficient. We do not haul much stuff across the entire continent, although there are some companies who do that.

I believe that the rail freight / road freight balance in NL was 0.7% vs 99.3%
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Old March 19th, 2009, 11:08 PM   #172
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Just a correction, autocarriers cars are generally shorter than double-stacks. Most railcars in use today in the US are Thrall double and triple level enclosed auto carriers, both of which are shorter than a loaded double stack well car. The new articulated auto-max cars *may* be taller than the double-stacks.
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We don't do much by rail in Europe when it comes to freight. Most capacity is taken by passenger trains, and the distances are shorter, so trucks are more efficient. We do not haul much stuff across the entire continent, although there are some companies who do that.

I believe that the rail freight / road freight balance in NL was 0.7% vs 99.3%
actually i was allways surpriced how NL doesn't have very developed railway traffic with so large ports
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Old March 21st, 2009, 01:50 PM   #174
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The first new sign along a motorway has been unveiled by transport minister Eurlings. They show where truckers can park their truck safely. There are three categories; 1) regular parking places 2) access via a closed gate 3) guarded and ID control.

The Dutch trucking industry lost 300 million last year in stolen goods.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 08:14 PM   #175
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Some things I noticed on my trip today;

23,40 meters... Most longer-than-usual trucks are 25,25m. Haven't seen this before.
Sea containers have standard sizes (20 feet and 40 feet in length), so making it exact 25,25 would be a bit difficult. You'll see those combinations very often at the harbours, especially on the A15.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 08:56 PM   #176
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We don't do much by rail in Europe when it comes to freight. Most capacity is taken by passenger trains, and the distances are shorter, so trucks are more efficient. We do not haul much stuff across the entire continent, although there are some companies who do that.
what about the night shift?

in other words: couldnt the cargo be transported in out of passanger peak periods?
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 04:42 PM   #177
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Sea containers have standard sizes (20 feet and 40 feet in length), so making it exact 25,25 would be a bit difficult. You'll see those combinations very often at the harbours, especially on the A15.
Does the EU have an opinion about the 25-metre lorries? I think they make sense, particularly on busy motorways.
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 06:39 PM   #178
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I don't think the EU has much to say about that.

The allowance in Holland is still restricted, btw. And since our neighbours do not allow them yet, these combinations can only be used for national trips. It would help much more if bigger countries like Germany or France would allow them...
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Old April 12th, 2009, 08:08 PM   #179
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Ill. joins study of truck-only interstate lanes

CLEVELAND - Illinois is one of four states studying a proposal to create separate lanes for commercial trucks traveling along 800 miles of Interstate 70.

Officials from Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and Missouri have signed a development agreement that includes using $5 million in federal funds to study what would be the nation's first truck-only interstate corridor.

Federal officials have designated the busy stretch of road as a "Corridor of the Future," making the states eligible for assistance.

Supporters say the plan originally submitted to U.S. transportation officials in 2007 would increase safety and decrease traffic congestion.

Truckers say they're wary that a multibillion-dollar project to create truck lanes could be funded through tolls.
Bad plan in my opinion. A truck-only corridor is way more expensive than a regular widening, you need a whole extra set of overpasses, bridges, tunnels, ramps, etc. I believe the idea also showed up in Missouri along the I-70 corridor.
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Old April 12th, 2009, 08:27 PM   #180
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Sth like the TTC (or NAFTA Highway), but that would be totally new, not a widening.
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