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Old October 12th, 2014, 03:48 PM   #421
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Why not a HSR from China to South Korea ? From the north east of China what with the Yantai tunnel and from Dalian, to the South, it would be a big boost.
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Old October 12th, 2014, 06:15 PM   #422
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Couldn't go through North Korea frankly. As things stand politically perhaps a line from Weihai direct across the sea to Incheon/Seoul. That could serve Beijing and Shanghai. The tunnel would be too long, impossible to engineer currently. Nice idea though.
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Old October 12th, 2014, 11:49 PM   #423
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Can I get around SK easily by train If I am not a Korean? Korea has been on my mind as a travel destination; the costs are prohibitive.
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Old October 13th, 2014, 12:01 AM   #424
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Couldn't go through North Korea frankly. As things stand politically perhaps a line from Weihai direct across the sea to Incheon/Seoul. That could serve Beijing and Shanghai. The tunnel would be too long, impossible to engineer currently. Nice idea though.
I wonder which will happen first, this becoming possible or a reunified Korea.
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Old October 13th, 2014, 01:01 AM   #425
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Can I get around SK easily by train If I am not a Korean? Korea has been on my mind as a travel destination; the costs are prohibitive.
Yeah, the staff speak English, ticket machines are fairly easy to use (English/Korean) and most signs are also in English. It's about 60 usd to get the high speed train from Seoul to Busan, average meal out will set you back about $5 or $10 if you go all out and get beer / soju too. Love motel will set you back about 30usd a night although you can stay at a jjimjilbang (thing spa with communal sleeping areas) for about 12usd.
Korea is expensive to get to but once you're there things are relatively cheap. Check out Air Asia or Air Busan for cheaper flights than the search engines usually find
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Old October 13th, 2014, 11:42 AM   #426
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Another video about Honam HSR:

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Old October 13th, 2014, 01:15 PM   #427
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Last I saw, the Honam HSR was supposed to be open next year. Is that correct?
Yes. It's scheduled to open in March, 2015.



Maps from wikipedia


KTX service via conventional railway
  • KTX service to Yeosu-Expo(Yeosu city) : open
  • KTX service to Jinju : open
  • KTX service to Incheon Internation Aiport : open
  • KTX service to Pohang : scheduled to open in May, 2015

High Speed Rail
  • Honam HSR Phase 1
    - From Osong To Gwangju-songjeong(Gwangju city)
    - Stations : Osong, Gongju, Iksan, Jeongeup, Gwangju-songjeong
    - 182.3 km
    - scheduled to open in March, 2015
  • Gyeongbu HSR Daejeon and Daegu section
    - Building a dedicated track in Daejeon(18.2km) and Daegu city(27km)
    - scheduled to open in May, 2015
  • Suseo HSR
    - Branched from Gyeongbu HSR near Pyeongtaek city to Suseo(Seoul city)
    - 61.1 km
    - scheduled to open in 2016 (originally scheduled to open in 2015 but delayed)
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Old October 13th, 2014, 05:01 PM   #428
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And I think the upgrade for Jinju - Suncheon line (Gyeongjeon Line) will be finished soon.

And the direct link to Busan (Jillye - Bujeon) that is under construction since June according FRDB, ready by 2020.

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Old October 13th, 2014, 06:40 PM   #429
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Is Jinju-Suncheon, and therefore Busan-Suncheon, being upgraded to HSR speeds (200km/h or greater), or is it just higher speed rail?
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Old October 13th, 2014, 07:44 PM   #430
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I'm not sure but I think they are upgrading the whole line up to 200km/h (or 230 according Wikipedia/Jungang Daily)

1st phase was opened in 12/2012 and it's from Samnangjin (Gyeongbu Line junction) to Masan and Jinju.



2nd phase (Jinju - Suncheon) will open next year according Future Rail Database.





After that, around 2020 the new direct link to central Busan (see #398) as a branch line.

This is interesting because the new commuter services on Donghae-Nambu Line will be extended to Sasang, Gimhae Airport and Masan.

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Old October 14th, 2014, 10:50 AM   #431
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And I think the upgrade for Jinju - Suncheon line (Gyeongjeon Line) will be finished soon.

And the direct link to Busan (Jillye - Bujeon) that is under construction since June according FRDB, ready by 2020.
I didn't include this because this topic is about HSR service.



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Is Jinju-Suncheon, and therefore Busan-Suncheon, being upgraded to HSR speeds (200km/h or greater), or is it just higher speed rail?



Gyeongjeon Line Upgrade Plan
  • Gwangju-songjeong ~ Suncheon
    - currently under reviewing
    - electified double track or electified single track
  • Suncheon ~ Gwangyang
    - completed
    - electified double track
  • Gwangyang ~ Jinju
    - under construction
    - non-electified double track
  • Jinju ~ Masan
    - completed
    - electified double track
  • Masan ~ Busan
    - under construction
    - electified double track

According to long-term plan Gyeongjeon line will be upgraded to HSR speeds (200km/h or greater), but I think it will take long time.

Gwangyang ~ Jinju section will be still non-electified even after upgrading. This implies no higher speed service in this section for a while.
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Old October 14th, 2014, 11:06 AM   #432
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Old October 14th, 2014, 11:33 AM   #433
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Gwangyang ~ Jinju
- non-electified double track


About the Masan-Busan branch, I suppose they will construct stations to allow passing trains, like in Donghae Nambu Line.
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Old October 16th, 2014, 09:38 AM   #434
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Honam HSR stations rendering image



Gongju Station (공주역)
- To be completed by October





Iksan Station (익산역)
- To be completed by November





Geongeup Station (정읍역)
- To be completed by November





Gwangju-songjeong station (광주송정역)
- To be completed by this year



source : KR blog
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Old October 16th, 2014, 10:14 AM   #435
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Gongju Station (공주역) situation by October 2014:



Looks like the station is in the middle of nowhere.
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Old October 16th, 2014, 04:29 PM   #436
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Yes, the location appears to be south of the city. In fact some sources give it the name Namgonju, rendered in hanja, it's 南公州駅, or South Gongju Station. This is the satellite view:
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3318.../data=!3m1!1e3
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Old October 16th, 2014, 05:46 PM   #437
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Man, that is ridiculous! It's like they couldn't have built the station any further from the city center! Hopefully there will be frequent bus service to the station.
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Old October 17th, 2014, 05:34 AM   #438
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I think one of the reasons Namgongju is so far south is to try and get some of the passengers from the existing Gyeryong station to use the KTX plus appeal to potential passengers who will go to and from Gyeryong/Nonsan army bases. There are a large number of soldiers and families of soldiers travelling to this area.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 04:22 PM   #439
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3D animation of Gwangju Songjeong HSR station:

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Old October 26th, 2014, 10:18 AM   #440
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Iksan Station Rendering Image (익산역)


Iksan Station (left : newly-built station, right: temporary station)


Iksan Station (bus stop and taxi stand, under construction)








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