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Old December 11th, 2014, 01:16 AM   #481
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Great! Does this mean that the Honam HSR line is officially open?

It seems strange to me that they went with ballasted track on a brand new line; I thought that ballastless track was supposed to be superior in a lot of ways. A quick Wikipedia lookup suggests that maybe they went with ballasted for reasons of passenger comfort? Any other ideas?
Honam HSR is ballastless track, just ballasted track are used within non-dedicated HSR stations such as Iksan, Jeongeup and Gwangju-songjeong station.
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Old December 11th, 2014, 01:31 AM   #482
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HONAM HSR TRAIN DEPOT in Gwangju





Honam HSR train depot in Gwangju was aired on local news(0:26~0:33).
(it says gwangju-songjeong station, but it's Honam HSR train depot in gwangju)
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Old December 20th, 2014, 05:21 PM   #483
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Honam HSL helicopter view

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Old December 22nd, 2014, 06:44 AM   #484
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Great! Does this mean that the Honam HSR line is officially open?

It seems strange to me that they went with ballasted track on a brand new line; I thought that ballastless track was supposed to be superior in a lot of ways. A quick Wikipedia lookup suggests that maybe they went with ballasted for reasons of passenger comfort? Any other ideas?
From the looks of it a lot of the track seems ballastless.


EDIT: Whoops, missed ruready's reply. :P

In any case, ballastless track is sexy.
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Old January 16th, 2015, 05:16 PM   #485
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Honam HSL by the end of March:

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Seoul-Gwangju Bullet Train to Take Just 1½ Hours

The Seoul-Gwangju KTX Line opens in late March, shortening travel time to Gwangju to an hour and 33 minutes, down over an hour from the current trip.

Until recently, it was impossible for the KTX to run at full speed between Seoul and Gwangju because it had to stop over midway on the old railway line. But the new 182.3-m track between Osong, North Chungcheong Province and Songjeong, Gwangju will reduce travel time by 66 minutes.

The project began in 2009, costing W8.4 trillion (US$1=W1,082) including W736 billion for new rolling stock.



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A half-day round trip will also become a real possibility. From Mokpo, it will now be possible to reach Seoul in two hours and five minutes, and the trip from Gwangju to Incheon International Airport will take just two hours and nine minutes.

The new KTX train also has a state-of-the-art interior. An improved version of the KTX train model provides more legroom for passengers. There are also power outlets for laptops or mobile phones under all rotating seats.

However, the fares are high, rising from the current W38,600 for the Seoul-Gwangju trip to about W47,000, according to industry insiders. The 50-minute flight, by comparison, costs W70,000-80,000, and the 3.5-hour drive costs about W56,000 for toll and fuel. But KORAIL said the KTX will be competitive because it saves time.
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Old January 16th, 2015, 05:20 PM   #486
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" But the new 182.3-m track"
huh? Surely the new track section isn't just 182.3 meters?
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Old January 17th, 2015, 12:56 AM   #487
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What's also good is that I believe that not only will this shorten the travel time to Mokpo and Gwangju, but the Osong - Iksan section should also make it quicker to use the Jeolla line (to JeonJu, YeoSu)... Does anyone know how many minutes the Honam HSR lines shaves of travel times to the cities on the Jeolla line ?
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Old January 17th, 2015, 01:28 AM   #488
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It'll probably make some difference, but considering how short Osong-Iksan is, probably not much. As far as I know, most of the older track that caused the trains to slowdown was further south in Jeollanam.

I find it funny that a difference of W9,000 is considered a lot. With the opening of this HSR line, I think South Korea is probably going to come very close to making domestic air travel totally obsolete, at least from a practicality standpoint.
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Old January 17th, 2015, 01:50 AM   #489
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It'll probably make some difference, but considering how short Osong-Iksan is, probably not much. As far as I know, most of the older track that caused the trains to slowdown was further south in Jeollanam.

I find it funny that a difference of W9,000 is considered a lot. With the opening of this HSR line, I think South Korea is probably going to come very close to making domestic air travel totally obsolete, at least from a practicality standpoint.
I did a bit of research, and it seems that the gain is in fact rather significant for the Jeolla line. The different sources don't say the same thing, but it seems that the gain will be of 40 minutes at least. Two reasons for that, the new section of the HSR Honam line starts "sooner" (from Seoul), and is kind of a shortcut because the old section was not really direct. Plus, the old section to Iksan was probably the slowest of the old Honam line, because the line keeps twisting and turning.

Two other line openings/improvements on the KTX railroad.
- The Daejeon and Daegu high-speed sections will open sometime this year (up until now, in these urban areas, the line followed the old GyeongBu line). This should cut about 8 minutes for trips from Seoul to Busan.
- The Pohang - New GyeongJu section of the DongHae NamBu Line will open in March, allowing direct KTX trips from Seoul to Pohang in two hours. Pohang had very poor train connectivity to the rest of the country until now (it apparently took 5 hours to get to Seoul and required a transfer in GyeongJu)

Source : http://www.ohmynews.com/NWS_Web/View...CD=A0002071205
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Old January 17th, 2015, 02:38 AM   #490
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Ah, I stand corrected then.

I'm still having a hard time finding anything that suggests any progress on a Gyeongjeon HSR line. I know it's part of the government's 2020 plan for national rail service, but I don't know if that's going to create a line that's equivalent to the Gyeongbu and Honam HSR line or if it's simply a comprehensive upgrade to the current line. It seems like the former would make more sense, at least in terms of the ever-present goal of rebalancing regional economies.
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Old January 17th, 2015, 02:53 AM   #491
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Ah, I stand corrected then.

I'm still having a hard time finding anything that suggests any progress on a Gyeongjeon HSR line. I know it's part of the government's 2020 plan for national rail service, but I don't know if that's going to create a line that's equivalent to the Gyeongbu and Honam HSR line or if it's simply a comprehensive upgrade to the current line. It seems like the former would make more sense, at least in terms of the ever-present goal of rebalancing regional economies.
I know fairly little about that line...

But I just researched it.(http://www.ohmynews.com/NWS_Web/View...CD=A0002058839), and it does seem to be in limbo, either postponed or maybe on the brink of cancellation. I'm too lazy to try and read the entire article in Korean.

I do know however that some sections of the line have been upgraded or built (or still under construction), but I think that we won't see a full HSR line from Mokpo to Busan
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Old January 21st, 2015, 06:57 PM   #492
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Honam - Gyeongbu High Speed Line Junction in Osong

January 20. Source (and more photos): http://dynamicktx.oa.to/220077057995








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Old January 22nd, 2015, 03:27 PM   #493
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Not thw worlds prettiest bridge lots of concrete poles
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Not thw worlds prettiest bridge lots of concrete poles
Yes, all over the country the KTX tracks have huge concrete poles on its dedicated tracks. When you go to the countryside it doesn't look good at all to me.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 10:23 AM   #495
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Is there a reason why the bridges are so ugly? Japan and China have elevated sections too, but they somehow blend with the scenery a lot better.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 11:45 AM   #496
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I'm not really sure. Maybe they just wanted to build it and be done.
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Is there a reason why the bridges are so ugly? Japan and China have elevated sections too, but they somehow blend with the scenery a lot better.
Ugly?

I find them beautiful
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I kind of do, too. They're like 3 waves across the countryside, though frankly I'm guessing it's that conspicuous inconsistency you don't like. I'm not sure that Korea does them any better or worse than China or Japan; concrete viaduct is only ever going to be so pretty.
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Old January 28th, 2015, 06:11 PM   #499
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Also I believe these are actual bridges over a river, not just a viaduct, the latter probably allows thinner pillars spaced farther apart.
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Hi people, there are any news about when the KTX-III (the commercial version of the HEMU-430X) will become operational?
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