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Old June 26th, 2015, 09:34 PM   #561
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I think Gyeongbu HSL is not saturated (comparing with the Tokaido Shinkansen definitively not), but considering how big is Seoul and the Sudogwon, a new Terminal on the southeast of the capital is more convenient for Gangnam, Seocho, Songpa, Gangdong, and cities like Seongnam, Yongin, Hwaseong or Pyeongtaek.
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Old June 27th, 2015, 06:22 AM   #562
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It is saturated; go look at post 273 on page 14. The infographic in it (courtesy of ruready1000) states in 2011 and 2012, the line was at just over 100% capacity, and I imagine it's gotten worse over the last 2 1/2 years. I'm sure it's worse on the Tokaido shinkansen, but the Gyeongbu HSL is still over capacity.
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Old June 27th, 2015, 09:52 AM   #563
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the new link will actually help with congestion on the original line - the stretch between ~처난 (Cheonan) and 대전 (Daejeon) will be shared by the existing services and the new Gangnam services. Are there plans to double the high speed track in this section to help this?
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It is saturated
But looking graphics I guess this is the status with the current trains, not the capacity of the HSL. 3~4 trains per hour on peak can't be said saturated.




The main problem on Gyeongbu HSL is the Daejeon and Daegu access shared with the other trains (Mugunghwa and Saemaul). The date for completion or opening of the High Speed dedicated tracks is the next July 20.

대구 도심구간 (Daegu City Access) situation on March 2015 (Busan-bound train):


From 35:15






대전 도심구간 (Daejeon City Access) situation on April 2015 (Seoul-bound train):







Source: http://frdb2.wo.to/100.htm
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Old June 27th, 2015, 10:43 PM   #565
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That does kind of make the construction of the Suseo line a headscratcher. It seems like a lot of money to spend to just improve access for the eastern half of the capital.
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Old August 1st, 2015, 04:31 AM   #566
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고속철 대전·대구 도심 전용구간 개통, KTX 서울~부산 운행시간 5분 빨라져

경부고속철도 대전과 대구지역 도심구간 45.3㎞가 개통됐다. 이로써 1992년 6월 착공한 경부고속철도 건설사업이 23년 만에 마무리됐고 KTX 서울역~부산역 간 운행속도도 5분 빨라지게 됐다.

한국철도시설공단은 대전역, 동대구역 전후 도심구간 45.3㎞ 고속전용선 공사를 완료하고 1일 개통한다고 31일 밝혔다. 경부고속철도 서울에서 부산까지 전 구간 417.4㎞가 고속철도 전용노선으로 깔리게 된 셈이다. 이번에 완공된 대전도심 구간은 18.2㎞, 대구도심 구간은 27.1㎞다.

경부고속철도 건설사업은 국내 최초의 고속철도사업으로 1992년 6월 착공한 이래 총20조6598억 원의 사업비가 투입됐다. 철도시설공단 관계자는 "고속철도 전용노선이 확보됨으로써 그동안 KTX와 다른 열차가 선로를 함께 쓰면서 상호 지장을 주는 등의 문제가 해소됐고, 안전사고의 위험도 많이 줄어들게 됐다"고 설명했다. 또한 하루 일방향 240회까지 KTX열차 운행이 가능해져 수송효율성도 향상 될 것으로 보인다.

경부고속철도 대전, 대구 도심구간은 노반, 궤도, 전차선 등 전 시설물을 2015년 2월 완공했고 종합시험운행(시설물검증 및 영업시운전)을 한국철도시설공단과 교통안전공단이 합동으로 종합시험팀을 구성해 정상작동 여부와 시설물과 차량 간 연계성 등을 검증했다.
http://www.kookje.co.kr/news2011/asp...01.22002210714

The urban sections in Daegu and Daejeon of the Gyeongbu KTX line have opened today, finally completing the Gyeongbu HSR line after 23 years of construction.

The section is 18.2 km-long in Daejeon and 27.1 km-long in Daegu. These new lines will cut the travel time from Seoul to Busan by 5 minutes.

More importantly, the KTX line will now be completely separate from the old Gyeongbu line. This means the bottlenecks in Daegu and Daejeon will be gone, greatly increasing the number of KTX travels a day (up to 240), and also beneficiating the trains using the old route (freight, saemaeul-ho...)
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Old August 5th, 2015, 07:38 AM   #567
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Plans to bring the Gyeongbu HSR line to Incheon Station through Suin Line by 2019

I just read about plans to bring the KTX (and train service overall...) to Incheon. Of course, there's already the KTX on the AREX Line, but Geoman station hasn't been used much by Incheon residents, because it requires them to go all the way North to Geoman, then enter Seoul and stopping at Seoul Station (if not Yongsan). Which makes going straight to Seoul or Gwangmyeong (by Subway Line 1) to take the KTX a better option for most Incheon residents.

The new plan will use the Suin Line : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suin_Line

Right now, the Suin line has two strategic and nodal termini : Buttf**k Nowhere (aka. Oido Station) and S**thole Station (aka Songdo station, which isn't even located in the new Songdo). However, as you all know, this is about to change. By December, the line will extend to Incheon Station. It still won't change the shape of the Earth, because the line will only go to Oido through Sinheung and Ansan. That is until 2017, as the line should finally extend to Suwon (hence the Su(won)-In(Cheon) name), and eventually merge with the Bundang line, all the way up to Seoul.

There have been plans this last year, and further confirmed this July, to use this line to bring the KTX to Incheon.

http://news.kbs.co.kr/news/view.do?ncd=2889909

http://enews.incheon.go.kr/main/php/...&section_sub=7

Here's an other video of the project with a nice map (at 1:12) of the project to explain it all


The KTX wouldn't actually use the entire Suin Line and not go all the way to Suwon (which doesn't have an HSR line, although it has KTX service on a conventional line). A 2.4km connection would be built between the Suin Line and the Gyeongbu HSR line a few kilometers west of Suwon.

On the map, the blue line is the future completed Suin Line, the green line is the Gyeongbu HSR line, and the orange line is the conventional rail line with KTX service in Suwon
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Old August 5th, 2015, 10:20 AM   #568
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Not sure if is the best. I skeptic with the high speed trains running through commuter lines.

Geoman Station will have access from central Incheon next year with the opening of the Subway Line 2.

As for south Incheon citizens, the best option in my opinion is the construction of a direct line between Gwangmyeong KTX Station to Wolgot (already planned http://frdb2.wo.to/132.htm).

Don't understand this desperate idea to align the KTX through commuter railway. What Seoul needs IMO are more express and limited express commuter trains (like in Tokyo).
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Old August 5th, 2015, 02:20 PM   #569
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Is that not the idea behind the GTX system, though? Those have relatively few planned stops and, if I remember correctly, will have a 200kmh top speed.

Also, I know that part of South Korea's long term HSR plans involve a line running along the far western side of the peninsula. Maybe this is kind of a precursor to that?
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Old August 5th, 2015, 02:46 PM   #570
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But the GTX needs to construct full new lines. With regular express services and limited express services on commuter lines the tracks are already constructed, only needs four tracks sections or passing stations. The transfer between local and express trains I think will be faster than GTX.
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Old August 12th, 2015, 03:33 PM   #571
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Kojects jus reported today on this project

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KTXs have been operating in the Incheon area via the airport railroad for over 2 years now, but soon it may be even easier for those living in the southern part of the city as well as parts of Gyeonggi-do to take the KTX.

At the beginning of July, the Ministry and Land Infrastructure and Transport (MOLIT) announced that they were investigating the possibility of Suwon and Songdo KTX services after initial feasibility studies came back with a business case of 1.23 and 1.18 respectively according to Yonhap News. Things are looking promising for the proposal and will go into planning stages later this year with an aim to start construction in the second half of next year.


Songdo and Suwon KTX
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If the project goes ahead it would mean building a 2.4km connection for Songdo trains from the current high speed Gyeongbu Line to Eocheon Station , one of the future stations on the third phase of the Suin Line due to be completed in 2017. As you might know, the KTX already services Suwon, but only four times a day and because it has to use the Gyeongbu Line for part of the trip it is unable to travel as fast as other KTX services. Another 4.7km connection will also be built from Seojeong-ri Station to the new high speed line at Jije Station in Pyeongtaek.

Adding these connections will mean that travelling from Songdo to Daejeon by KTX will take 1 hour 11 minutes, with a trip to Busan possible in just 2 hours and 3 minutes. Trips from Suwon to Daejeon also would be cut from the current time of 67 minutes to 48 minutes.

Watch this space as we’ll be keeping an eye on this project.
http://kojects.com/2015/08/12/ktxs-f...uwon-stations/

It also mentions the connection from the Suseo line to Suwon, truly putting Suwon on the KTX map
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Old August 17th, 2015, 12:13 PM   #572
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Ridership 2004/2014



Source for the number of passengers per line: National Bureau of Statistics South Korea.
Source for the number of passengers per km: STATISTICAL YEARBOOK OF RAILROAD 2015. Here are many statistics (1,671 pages) on railway in Korea.
Data from both sources are somewhat different.
Source for calculating the Passenger load factor: Performance and efficiency of high-speed rail systems (page 22).

Occupancy rate (passengers / seats) is always much higher than the Use rate or Passenger load factor (passengers * km / seats * km). In commuter lines it is normal to have occupations 500% depending on the number of passengers using every seat.
For example, in 2012 there were 52 million KTX passengers to 55.6 million seats (95%), and 14.1 billions of passengers*km to 22.7 billions seats*km (62%).

In 2014 every passenger had an average of 259 km (14.7 * 1000 / 56.9).
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Old September 12th, 2015, 01:53 PM   #573
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http://www.molit.go.kr/USR/mof_polic...age=249&id=457

Current construction status of the 3 stations of the Sudogweon (ie. Suseo) High Speed Rail :

Suseo (in Gangnam-gu, Seoul)



Dongtan (in Hwaseong, Gyeonggi-do)



Jijae (in Pyeongtaek, Gyeonggi-do)



Source for all pictures : http://blog.naver.com/montana74/220471312273

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Hyundai Rotem rolled out on October 20th in Changwon the first trainset that will be used on the Suseo HSR line


http://www.etnews.com/20151020000182

Trains will have 10 cars, max out at 330km/h and be able to carry 440 people.

For reminder, the Suseo HSR line is due to open in mid-2016.


http://www.molit.go.kr/USR/mof_polic...age=249&id=457
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So does the Suseo KTX continue past Pyeongtaek onto the Gyeongbu/Honam HSL's, then? I kinda figured it did, but I'm not sure. Also, is the Gyeongbu HSL tracked enough to allow both a Suseo and Gyeongbu KTX to join one another at speed in the same direction? That'd be pretty cool to see, if so.
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Hmmm, will the trains be able to run at 330km/h on the Gyeongbu HS line? Current KTX train sets max out at 305km/h right?
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Hmmm, will the trains be able to run at 330km/h on the Gyeongbu HS line? Current KTX train sets max out at 305km/h right?
Maybe they're just building the Suseo HSL to 330kmh spec, although I don't know what the point would be considering how short it is, unless the Gyeongbu HSL will be upgraded, too. I'd not be surprised if it was going to be, what with the upcoming, much-faster HEMU-430x based units coming soon.
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Travelling with KTX Train No. 660 between Iksan and Seoul Yongsan Station in First Class:
Train No. 660 travels on the classic Honam Line (not Honam HSR) and joining the Gyeongbu High Speed Railway near Seodaejeon.
The KTX trains calls at Nonsan, Gyeryong, Seodaejeon, Osong, and Gwangmyeong.
KTX trains are operated by Korail. A Class 110000 trainset (111152) is used for this trip and was built by Hyundai Rotem.



































Video of the journey:





Here is the direct link to the video, in case it does not load:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbQm7DxzQdk



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Construction status update of the Suseo KTX station, scheduled for completion in late June (and opening of the line in August) :



http://blog.naver.com/hun2014102/220622816607

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HEMU-250

We've heard references to a "mid-speed", ~250kmh rolling stock fitting between the ITX-Saemaul and KTX trains, but this is the only information I've found about it:

Hyundai Rotem, Korail at odds over price of high-speed train

In sum, Korail started a bid for new trains for the Busan-Masan line (seems awfully short for high-speed service), for which Rotem was predictably the only bidder. Despite undercutting Korail's bid by 10%, Rotem's offer was still considered too expensive. In truth, little though I know about rolling stock procurement, $4 billion does seem like a lot for 30 trainsets, but just the same, it's odd that Rotem's tender wasn't accepted, considering how things usually go with Korail.

Anyway, a model of the train. Looks alright, and I'm glad to see another new "face" coming to South Korea's rails:

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