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Old November 28th, 2008, 11:06 AM   #41
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Does that mean the HSR 350X was just a prototype? ROTEM built a plant in Turkey (EUROTEM) in cooperation with the Turkish TUVESAS in order to build highspeed trains for the new highspeed lines in Turkey and we thought that they are going to build the HSR 350X in Turkey. Are there two trains now or is this going to be the only highspeed train in production?That would mean we'll have these babies soon as well. Although HSR 350x was quite sexy this baby is even hotter!

As far as I know HSR 350X is just prototype. Like KTX (TGV korean version), Turkish version design would be different.
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Old November 28th, 2008, 01:05 PM   #42
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I hope it won't be different, this one is damn sexy!
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Old November 28th, 2008, 01:19 PM   #43
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HSR 350X will be just EUROTEM's production. You can't see HSR 350X at the website of ROTEM. HSR 350X will be produced only in Turkey and KTX-II is another production. It will be manifactured only in Korea. I think both of them are same thecnology but different designs.
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Old November 28th, 2008, 01:31 PM   #44
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No, I don't think so. HSR 350 X was developed before Turkey even decided to build highspeed lines. That means it was just a prototype to develop a better train, namely the KTX II. And you can't see HSR350 x on the website because it's not a product to purchase, it's just a prototype. And I can remember having seen pictures of HSR 350x before the Rotem website was renewed.
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Old November 28th, 2008, 09:44 PM   #45
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but why do all websites say EUROTEM will produce HSR 350x?
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Old November 28th, 2008, 11:26 PM   #46
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No they say EUROTEM will produce highspeed train for Turkish railways. It was our own interpretation that HSR 350X will be produced for Turkey because it was the newest product of ROTEM but since it came out that HSR 350 X was just a prototype in order to develop the KTX II we can say that KTX II will be produced in Turkey and not the prototype HSR 350X. btw for those who ask wtf EUROTEM is, Eurotem is a joint venture between Korean ROTEM and Turkish TUVESAS. Euro+Rotem = Eurotem. Korea hopes to win the European market via Turkey.
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Old November 29th, 2008, 11:56 AM   #47
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the ceremony the picture of HSR 350X was behind the stange.

Anyway, we will wait and see what will happen and wich production will be manifactured. I think we must be patient about it.


you say "Korea hopes to win the European market via Turkey." this is so true. But I think they did the best thing. Bursa, Adapazarı, Izmit triangle has many factories like that including ford, toyota, mercedes (bus factory). But I am sure in the future, EUROTEM will produce its own designs and trains, seprately and independently, how TEMSA started with Mitsubishi but later became independent. Or ROTEM produced with French support at the beginning, of how CAF founded with French support.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 05:17 PM   #48
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some korean railway photos.






















all photos from http://blog.naver.com/paralkd05
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Old December 5th, 2008, 08:35 PM   #49
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my friend, I think you should open a new and very large thread about Korean railways
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Old December 9th, 2008, 05:56 PM   #50
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Looks too TGV to me :-S
? I think its got a fairly distinct style; its bound to look a bit like its parents. And how could anything look "too TGV" - that implies something unsatisfactory about the appearance of the TGV, and suggests prejudice on your part, rather than any failing of the styling of the train

I think that they have done a good job in maintaining continuity of style with the existing KTX TGVs

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Old December 9th, 2008, 08:48 PM   #51
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Love the photos, got any more? Links? Korea HSR needs a higher profile on these forums.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 11:29 PM   #52
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design looks so much better. I like it. Nice train
I agree. The first thing I thought was that it's easy on the eyes and calm-looking on a personal level, which seems to be less and less a rage nowadays.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 10:25 AM   #53
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Another photos of KTX-II














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Old March 15th, 2009, 10:50 AM   #54
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That's one nice looking TGV ehhh I mean KTX.

But the interior is bit plain, that could've been better.

Now it's time for Rotem to develop their own HST EMU, they should be able to do that now.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 08:01 PM   #56
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Old March 16th, 2009, 10:34 PM   #57
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That's one nice looking TGV ehhh I mean KTX.

But the interior is bit plain, that could've been better.

Now it's time for Rotem to develop their own HST EMU, they should be able to do that now.
Officially at least, the KTX-II is a totally original design. It still looks like a TGV though.
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I guess the whole concept of having power cars with articulated cars in between is just so trademark TGV that when another company uses he the same concept it's always will be like a copy. You don't get that with more conventional non articulated high speed trains, like the ICE 1 and the ETR 500.
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Officially at least, the KTX-II is a totally original design. It still looks like a TGV though.
If its a totally original design it wouldn't of still look like a TGV. The front might be original but the carriages are not exterior wise.
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Old March 17th, 2009, 07:06 AM   #60
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KTX-II is sort of son from same father and different mother, so you can say it looks like TGV and has TGV DNA, of course.
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