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Old July 1st, 2009, 08:51 PM   #121
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Pity they didn't keep Alstom DNA in HEMU-400X, as going back to classical bogies (even with distributed traction) is I think step back then the TGV jacobs bogies and articulation due to the advances they bring. If they'd follow the route of AGV (distributed traction with articulation) then it would be a (technical) step forward, now it's only a classical (though goog looking) EMU.

Distributed traction may look appealing (as many say locos are not funky), but then again HST with distributed traction can not be duplex (at least not all the way) as you need to store all the electronics gear somewhere).

I think that TGV Duplex is the smartest thing there is, but doing it with distributed traction would either be impossible or it would have duplex and single-floor sections (as it was done in V150 trainset which was duplex but with additional AGV powered bogies).
KTX train has 935 seats so that there's no need, at least currently, to use Duplex type.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 06:22 PM   #122
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cough... ...cough
I DO feel stupid now...

There is a local proverb which goes something like "it's better to fall out stupid then from the aeroplane" (looses a bit in translation). Forgot that there are Shinkansen's which are bilevel (E1/E4 series).

Though you must admit that clasical bogies do take up bigger percentage of length hence you have less duplex areas, wasting bit more on the carriage connections, though then again you need to fit all electrical junk somewhere (which is then in these single-level areas around doors and connections).

I did once see a Talgo idea of bilevel all-the-way (even on bogies, which actually are not classical bogies but some Talgo clever contraptions), so you would have two levels all the way, thus minimizing the need for stairwells.

Shinkansen does have a big advantage in width (3.4 vs 2.9m) and generally in the loading gauge which is larger, hence there is more room for all necessary equipment, plus of course 5-a-row seating (though it's a question whether European anthropometry would allow it without being much cramped even with 3.4m).
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Old July 5th, 2009, 04:44 AM   #123
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Old July 6th, 2009, 04:52 PM   #124
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Old July 7th, 2009, 08:24 AM   #125
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Old July 13th, 2009, 07:10 PM   #126
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Old July 22nd, 2009, 05:00 PM   #127
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Honam High-Speed Rail to begin construction on July 24

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Honam high-speed rail, from Osong to Mokpo, will begin construction work on July 24.

Honam High-Speed Rail
  • Lenghth : 230.9km
  • Route : Osong - Mokpo
  • Construction Schedule
    Phase 1 : Osong - Gwangju (to be completed by 2014)
    Phase 2 : Gwangju - Mokpo (to be competed by 2017)
  • Construction Cost
    12 trillion won (approximately 9.6 billion dollar at current currency rate)
  • Train Operation (planned)
    Total 350 cars ( 1 trainset = 10 cars, 43 times / day )
  • Operation Speed
    300km (design speed 350km/h)
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Old July 24th, 2009, 05:23 AM   #128
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Old July 24th, 2009, 05:47 AM   #129
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WOW! What a fantastic train!
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Old July 25th, 2009, 06:24 AM   #130
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Old July 25th, 2009, 06:27 AM   #131
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Old September 9th, 2009, 01:34 PM   #133
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Old December 21st, 2009, 12:43 AM   #136
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Very good pictures.

Always have been a fan of KTX trains.

Applaud the Koreans for coming up with the KTX-II so shortly after the KTX, even though it may only be fundamentally an improved KTX-I(which is a TGV)

Can't wait for the HEMU-400
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Old March 4th, 2010, 10:35 AM   #137
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The KTX-II is sooo beautifull, almost as much as my number 1 favorite the latest ICE :p
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Old October 16th, 2010, 08:28 PM   #139
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Looks too TGV to me :-S
that's because it IS a TGV!
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Old October 16th, 2010, 11:41 PM   #140
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I think the Koreans treated the details a little better than the TGV, i.e. the aerodynamic fairings are smoother, and a glossy paint job.
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