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jarbury · February 25th, 2009, 06:54 AM

I'll miss him. A very sharp mind and made some really funny jokes in parliamentary debates. Definitely one of the most intelligent politicians we've had in a long time.

***Svartmetall*** · February 25th, 2009, 07:00 AM

I'm fairly indifferent to him. He was in the pocket of the roads lobby, he carried himself with an air of arrogance and he didn't often present himself in the right way.

However, counter to this, the guy was obviously smart and he was fairly fiscally prudent. He believed in far more sound policies than National used to adhere to (they've changed their tune somewhat in light of the crisis).

cambennett · February 25th, 2009, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Milan Luka

Now it looks like Dr Cullen is about to announce his resignation from politics. Even though I believe he did an adequate job during his tenure as Finance Minister I don't think he'll be missed by anyone in particular.

Yeah he did seem to be despised by many who saw him as arrogant.

I never minded him i thought he could be quite witty from time to time. As others have mentioned he was also competent as minister of finance.

Probably best for Labour that he does move on they need to reinvent themselves at the moment if they want to have any hope at the next election they are way off the pace. They only need to look across the debating chamber to see what a few new faces can do to rejuvinate a party.

cambennett · February 25th, 2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Svartmetall

I'm fairly indifferent to him. He was in the pocket of the roads lobby, he carried himself with an air of arrogance and he didn't often present himself in the right way.

However, counter to this, the guy was obviously smart and he was fairly fiscally prudent. He believed in far more sound policies than National used to adhere to (they've changed their tune somewhat in light of the crisis).

Early on he probably was in the pocket of the roading lobby but no more than any of those who preceeded him and no more than any of the current lot in goverment so might be a bit unfair to single him out on that basis. He seemed to start to see the light in Labour's last term though.

***Svartmetall*** · February 25th, 2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cambennett

Early on he probably was in the pocket of the roading lobby but no more than any of those who preceeded him and no more than any of the current lot in goverment so might be a bit unfair to single him out on that basis. He seemed to start to see the light in Labour's last term though.

Oh, I wasn't maimplying that it was unique that he was the roading lobby in comparison to present and past MP's, however, the fact remains that he was and I do hold it against him. His policies were quite clearly favouring roads with central government funding and very little has changed in that regard. Sure a token bit of money was diverted to PT, but again, roads were clearly the beneficiaries overall.

MonsieurAquilone · February 25th, 2009, 08:14 AM

Won't miss him. He did himself no favours with his arrogant behaviour.

ZEALand · February 26th, 2009, 09:29 AM

He was arrogant, but witty as well. A reasonably competent Finance Minister and good leader of the house, unlike Gerry Brownlee who is out of his debth in that role.

Blah · February 27th, 2009, 10:44 AM

He was an obnoxious condescending tosser. Good riddance.

Blah · February 27th, 2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MonsieurAquilone

Shouldn't the leadership be based on merit, not on someone's gender which would render such organisation discriminatory?

Dude, they're hippies. They probably have a shrub in the back they worship to. (suitably native shrub of course)

jarbury · February 27th, 2009, 11:11 AM

So any thoughts on today's jobs summit?

I think the government fund for people to borrow money from at low (ie.government level) interest rates is a no-brainer. If people can't get credit when they need it from banks, then the govt should step in to help them.

The 'day off every fortnight' idea sounds interesting. I'd love for the government/whoever to pay for me to do training one day a fortnight. I'd be enrolling in an MPlanPrac at Auckland Uni tomorrow. Might cost a heck of a lot of money though.....

And... uhhh... that sounds about it when it comes to good ideas.

Dazzle · February 27th, 2009, 11:47 AM

Cullen was / is an utter pr i ck.
Got his jollies on trying to belittle and cut his opponents down.
If you watched his carrying on in Parliament, you would know what I mean.

MonsieurAquilone · February 27th, 2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blah

Dude, they're hippies. They probably have a shrub in the back they worship to. (suitably native shrub of course)

Brilliant.

TonyNZ · March 15th, 2009, 02:50 PM

Just curious, is there still plans for the Treaty of Waitangi to be abolished asap as well as the Moari party?

cambennett · March 15th, 2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyNZ

Just curious, is there still plans for the Treaty of Waitangi to be abolished asap as well as the Moari party?

No, not at all. The Maori party have actually signed a confidence and supply agreement with the current government so are a part of the coalition.

Don't think anyone could get rid of the Maori party, they have a right to exist like any other political party.

The Treaty of Waitangi will never be abolished i don't think unless we become a republic.

What you may be thinking of was National's policy of abolishing the Maori seats prior to the election. They have ditched this policy.

DML2 · March 16th, 2009, 02:03 AM

The Treaty of Waitangi shouldn't be recognised as a legal document

jarbury · March 16th, 2009, 02:14 AM

LOL. More political extremism from DML2.

And typically with no reasoning behind it.... come on, you just sound like a redneck.

TonyNZ · March 16th, 2009, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cambennett

No, not at all. The Maori party have actually signed a confidence and supply agreement with the current government so are a part of the coalition.

Don't think anyone could get rid of the Maori party, they have a right to exist like any other political party.

The Treaty of Waitangi will never be abolished i don't think unless we become a republic.

What you may be thinking of was National's policy of abolishing the Maori seats prior to the election. They have ditched this policy.

Oh ok thankyou for that. I could of sworn i heard something about National ending the treaty of Waitangi agreement becuase it was costing the Govt billions of dollars in compensation to tribes throughout the country. I dont really know though lol.

cambennett · March 16th, 2009, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyNZ

Oh ok thankyou for that. I could of sworn i heard something about National ending the treaty of Waitangi agreement becuase it was costing the Govt billions of dollars in compensation to tribes throughout the country. I dont really know though lol.

aha, i get what you mean. Putting a cut off date on all treaty claims. I think this was actually already done by the previous government. All claims had to be in by a certain date after which no more land claims would be accepted.

However this does not mean the treaty of Waitangi would cease to exist.

cambennett · March 16th, 2009, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DML2

The Treaty of Waitangi shouldn't be recognised as a legal document

Why not?

MonsieurAquilone · March 16th, 2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cambennett

Why not?

Because it disadvantaged Maori in many ways.

February 25th, 2009, 07:00 AM	#42
*Svartmetall* Ordo Ab Chao Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Past: Northampton, UK (19 years), Auckland NZ (7 years), Now: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 9,191 Likes (Received): 249	I'm fairly indifferent to him. He was in the pocket of the roads lobby, he carried himself with an air of arrogance and he didn't often present himself in the right way. However, counter to this, the guy was obviously smart and he was fairly fiscally prudent. He believed in far more sound policies than National used to adhere to (they've changed their tune somewhat in light of the crisis). __________________ "Alle Ding sind Gift, und nichts ohn Gift; allein die Dosis macht, daß ein Ding kein Gift ist." Paracelsus 1493-1541

February 25th, 2009, 08:14 AM	#46
MonsieurAquilone to fly Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bologna Posts: 1,421 Likes (Received): 1	Won't miss him. He did himself no favours with his arrogant behaviour. __________________ only birds fly first class

February 27th, 2009, 11:47 AM	#51
Dazzle All over the place Join Date: May 2006 Location: Auckland / Dublin / Vrgorac Posts: 599 Likes (Received): 2	Cullen was / is an utter pr i ck. Got his jollies on trying to belittle and cut his opponents down. If you watched his carrying on in Parliament, you would know what I mean. __________________ DAZZLE "It was an ingenious solution to a problem that should never have existed"

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February 26th, 2009, 09:29 AM	#47
ZEALand Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bayswater, Auckland Posts: 252 Likes (Received): 0	He was arrogant, but witty as well. A reasonably competent Finance Minister and good leader of the house, unlike Gerry Brownlee who is out of his debth in that role.

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