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Old September 24th, 2007, 12:10 PM   #21
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lol... we have the similar trams in Zagreb and those trams have some difficulties with braking, few months ago was an accident with them...
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Old September 24th, 2007, 04:12 PM   #22
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I like the 'classic' look of the trams.
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Old September 24th, 2007, 04:45 PM   #23
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I like the 'classic' look of the trams.
me too.

the new style of the trams is ugly and in many cases it doesn't fit to the area around.


from the inside it looks a little bit not comfortable with the wood seats.
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Old September 24th, 2007, 10:00 PM   #24
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Well, Why Urbanrail didn't put Antalya's rail system map?
Because it's a tramway, not a metro.

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The line needs new trams these look very out dated.
The line has been built as experiment in economy so there have ben bought only three old German tramways.
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Old September 24th, 2007, 10:44 PM   #25
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Nice trams, they fit nicely to Antalya.
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 03:49 AM   #26
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No, current line doesn't fit the all of the city. And the new line may not make too, just for Kepez(North)-City Center traffic. Planning to project lines. But Greater Muncipality of Antalya doesn't have enough money. Yesterday, 2007 budget is calculated $425m

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Because it's a tramway, not a metro.
How about Bursa and Athens'? They're tram.
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 03:57 AM   #27
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Are trams more efficient than buses? I like the idea of trams but I'm not sure why they're more practical. To me the just look cooler because they aren't buses.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 09:04 PM   #28
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Trams just has a less capacity and network.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 09:08 PM   #29
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Are trams more efficient than buses? I like the idea of trams but I'm not sure why they're more practical. To me the just look cooler because they aren't buses.
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Trams just has a less capacity and network.
Maybe there...compare this
http://www.freeweb.hu/busztipus/credo/bn18-2.jpg
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http://www.freeweb.hu/villamostipusok/com/07.jpg
Are still think trams have lower capacity,or less practical?
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Old December 4th, 2007, 10:42 PM   #30
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Yeah, sometimes it could be.

BTW Here's a map of Phase 1 of the new line, It will be completed at the last of 2008 and offically opened at June 2009;
http://www.antalya.bel.tr/varliklar/...mvay_Hatti.jpg

Phase 2 is updated with new line as Meltem Bulvarı, TRT Caddesi, Tonguç Caddesi (Formerly, it was planning on Migros-Culture Center-100.yıl Blv). Its construcrion will start after Phase 1 get completed.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 11:44 PM   #31
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Unfortunately, I didn't take any photos of trams or tracks when I was in Antalya this summer. At least, here are three photos taken near the tracks:





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Old December 5th, 2007, 12:02 AM   #32
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Forthcoming projects til 2020;

Legend: Current tramline (black-purple), Phase 1 (Red), Phase 2 (Green and Turquise), Phase 3(Gray, Light Purple and Yellow), Phase 4(Pink), and planning national rail(black-light green) by TCDD

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Old December 5th, 2007, 12:03 AM   #33
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http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9536/snmek120gh0.jpg
The building behind of the monument had been demolished. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=440169

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Old December 5th, 2007, 06:04 AM   #34
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Maybe there...compare this
http://www.freeweb.hu/busztipus/credo/bn18-2.jpg
to this
http://www.freeweb.hu/villamostipusok/com/07.jpg
Are still think trams have lower capacity,or less practical?
So trams can carry more people, more efficiently? Is that what you're saying? Sometimes it looks like BRT(Bus Rapid Transit) accomplishes the same thing as Trams with similar performance. I love the idea of trams but I have to think of why I love the idea in the first place. Seeing a train in the street looks nice but what is the practicality when it shares the same right of way as cars and busses?
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Old December 5th, 2007, 12:32 PM   #35
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So trams can carry more people, more efficiently? Is that what you're saying? Sometimes it looks like BRT(Bus Rapid Transit) accomplishes the same thing as Trams with similar performance. I love the idea of trams but I have to think of why I love the idea in the first place. Seeing a train in the street looks nice but what is the practicality when it shares the same right of way as cars and busses?
A tram always has the right of way(if there are no traffic lights). Trams these days are separated from the traffic,which gives them the ability to stay on schedule. They dont pollute. And tram can have the capacity of a train(if enough cars are coupled),but buses dont(not even this can compete with a tram). If the tracks are paved,emergency vehicles can use the tracks to overtake the traffic. Even buses can use the tracks in that case,which allows them to stay on schedule.
BTW,that is not a train...thats just 1 tramcar.
I dont know about the rest of the world,but here,the rank is
bus<articulated bus<tram<"combino"<metro...in cities. If there are enough people, buslines(or parts of them) can be replaced by trams. And so on.

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Old April 7th, 2008, 08:20 PM   #36
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Old May 31st, 2008, 03:07 PM   #37
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Old May 31st, 2008, 09:21 PM   #38
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I love those trams!
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Old June 2nd, 2008, 04:15 PM   #39
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So trams can carry more people, more efficiently? Is that what you're saying? Sometimes it looks like BRT(Bus Rapid Transit) accomplishes the same thing as Trams with similar performance. I love the idea of trams but I have to think of why I love the idea in the first place. Seeing a train in the street looks nice but what is the practicality when it shares the same right of way as cars and busses?
This is an Australian tram-route, not a Turkish one:



Try managing the pasengers from these two trams (there are another couple beyond them) with buses: one street here handles 1400 (generally smaller) trams/day. Trams don't have to swing in and out along their route to pick up & off-load passengers.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 12:35 AM   #40
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Anyway, the new LRT line is uner construction. Just check: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=337827
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