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Old June 21st, 2010, 07:21 PM   #81
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Stricter rules proposed for tall office blocks in Tsim Sha Tsui
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Developers planning tall commercial buildings in Tsim Sha Tsui will have to comply in future with a more stringent set of design conditions.

Government proposals to be discussed by the Town Planning Board today aim to define Tsim Sha Tsui as a central business district and a high-rise node while improving the streetscape and pedestrian environment.

The proposals set out rules for developers wanting to exceed current height restrictions, including limiting the building to 65 per cent of the site area and providing green space equivalent to 20 per cent of the area.

Building heights in Tsim Sha Tsui are limited to between 60 and 130 metres above sea level, depending on the location, but the limit can be exceeded on application to the board.

The new proposals apply only to sites of at least 1,800 square metres, big enough to enable the design rules to be met while still providing offices of a reasonable size.

A Planning Department study shows that a site area of 1,800 square metres will result in a building with a floor size of about 1,000 square meters, akin to the floor size for modern Grade A office buildings.

Three sites are specifically excluded - New World Centre, Ocean Centre and The Masterpiece; these buildings are respectively 265 metres, 387 metres and 250 metres high.

The lawmaker for architects, former Town Planning Board member Patrick Lau Sau-shing, said tall buildings should be encouraged in urban areas: "Given the same amount of floor area allowed, short buildings will be too flat and massive and block the wind flow."

But he warned that design rules that were too rigid could discourage creative and unique designs.

The proposed rules call on developers to provide a better pedestrian environment by, for example, putting car parks underground to minimise a building's bulk and improve air flow at ground level.

Apart from orienting the building in a direction that will not block prevailing wind, the developer must provide uncovered greenery of at least 20 per cent of the gross site area at street level on the lowest three floors, so as to offer visual relief and improve the micro-climate for pedestrians.

Floors close to the ground should be set back at least three metres from the site boundary facing open space, waterfront or principal streets to leave space for planting small to medium-sized trees.

If the width of a building's facade facing principal streets or public open space exceeds 100 metres, gaps of not less than half of the building's total width should be reserved to let the air through and provide a view.

Applications for a taller commercial building must be supported with technical assessments of the building's impact on the surrounding environment.

The department also proposes relaxing the height restriction for sites southeast and northwest of Mody Road to 80 metres and 95 metres from 60 metres, to allow a stepped height profile.
Any more info on the 387m Ocean Centre?
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 03:23 PM   #82
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Any more info on the 387m Ocean Centre?
yeah, a possible new supertall for HK? that would be great!
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 04:50 PM   #83
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Any more info on the 387m Ocean Centre?
I just know the total high of the Ocean Centre's redevelopment is 404.598mPD...

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海港城重建96層摩廈獲批 2008年8月30日

【明報專訊】屋宇署昨日公布最新建築圖則,其中包括九倉旗下尖沙嘴海港城港威3期重建項目修改建築圖則,獲批興建一幢96層高(另加1層地庫)的商廈及酒店。據了解,由於地皮原則上不用補地價,只要取得開工紙便可動工。地產界人士相信發展商正等候最佳時機興建。該項目的樓面面積達301.3萬平方呎,較現時全港最高的中環國金二期的約200萬方呎,多約50%。

該項目早於1999年已獲屋宇署批出建築圖則,可建樓高386.7米(至屋頂)商業物業,若計及屋頂的建築,樓高達404.598米(國金二期為 415.8米),若該廈興建,將是繼建築至後期的九龍站環球貿易廣場(118層)及國金二期後,全港第三高建築物。

據了解,1999年發展商首次獲批圖則後,於02及04年均曾稍微修改圖則獲批(不用公布),屋宇署是次因為圖則有「重大修改」而作公布,顯示改動較前兩次大,但主要發展參數應無大變動。

政府早前就尖沙嘴設定全區高限,由於上述項目及新世界中心東翼(可建約70層)項目的高限定為386.7米及265米,成為焦點。油尖旺區議會早前認為,由於兩項目早獲批,認同尊重法治及合約精神,亦促請發展商順應民意,履行社會企業責任,盡量調低這兩座擬建建築物的高度,保護維港景觀,並促請官員與發展商協商。

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Old June 22nd, 2010, 05:47 PM   #84
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I just know the total high of the Ocean Centre's redevelopment is 404.598mPD...

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海港城重建96層摩廈獲批 2008年8月30日

【明報專訊】屋宇署昨日公布最新建築圖則,其中包括九倉旗下尖沙嘴海港城港威3期重建項目修改建築圖則,獲批興建一幢96層高(另加1層地庫)的商廈及酒店。據了解,由於地皮原則上不用補地價,只要取得開工紙便可動工。地產界人士相信發展商正等候最佳時機興建。該項目的樓面面積達301.3萬平方呎,較現時全港最高的中環國金二期的約200萬方呎,多約50%。

該項目早於1999年已獲屋宇署批出建築圖則,可建樓高386.7米(至屋頂)商業物業,若計及屋頂的建築,樓高達404.598米(國金二期為 415.8米),若該廈興建,將是繼建築至後期的九龍站環球貿易廣場(118層)及國金二期後,全港第三高建築物。

據了解,1999年發展商首次獲批圖則後,於02及04年均曾稍微修改圖則獲批(不用公布),屋宇署是次因為圖則有「重大修改」而作公布,顯示改動較前兩次大,但主要發展參數應無大變動。

政府早前就尖沙嘴設定全區高限,由於上述項目及新世界中心東翼(可建約70層)項目的高限定為386.7米及265米,成為焦點。油尖旺區議會早前認為,由於兩項目早獲批,認同尊重法治及合約精神,亦促請發展商順應民意,履行社會企業責任,盡量調低這兩座擬建建築物的高度,保護維港景觀,並促請官員與發展商協商。

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wow, over 3,000,000 m²! this tower would be a monster with 387m to the roof and 405m to the tip. hopefully this project will move forward.
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Old July 28th, 2010, 08:23 PM   #85
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尖沙咀《新世界中心》重建項目關注組 "New World Centre" Redevelopment Concern Group
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110520798965873



The 10-storey New World Centre located in Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong will be redeveloped into a 63-storey building comprised of offices and hotels. Erected by the Victoria Harbour, its height and design after redevelopment will greatly affect the picturesque scene of the world -renowned Harbour, and also deprive the Kowloon residents' right to enjoy the scene. It's not a problem to redevelop the New World Centre, but its outcome concerns us. On top of everything, the Victoria Harbour is a common property of Hong Kong citizens.
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Old July 30th, 2010, 08:08 PM   #86
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The HongKong new centre is been the great centre as is picture tells that story for the people.Really very long and the awesome .Its been 63story building with many things working there people enjoy its service and infrastructure a lot.
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Old August 1st, 2010, 04:26 PM   #87
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hkskyline, do you know when they actually will begin construction once the demolition is done? i couldn't find any reliable source.
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Old August 1st, 2010, 05:06 PM   #89
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hkskyline, do you know when they actually will begin construction once the demolition is done? i couldn't find any reliable source.
I haven't picked up any info either on the construction piece. This project doesn't have much public information at all!
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Those buildings were not that old. Maybe they'd better re-use it, would have been much more sustainable...
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Those buildings were not that old. Maybe they'd better re-use it, would have been much more sustainable...
It's all about increasing density, not due to ages or condition of the building.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 08:38 PM   #93
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They're not demolishing the whole site are they? I guess i'll have to record it before its gone forever.

Is this the building where the little animals used to come out of the side and play music every hour (or something like that?)
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Old December 23rd, 2010, 05:19 PM   #95
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12/23 - yellow crane in the background :

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This is the suspected rendering posted on the HK forum...

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Beautyful. The Hong Kong version of Aqua, but with a few extra's.
What is that blue feature under the overspan?
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^ Could it be a pool? It'd be quite scary to swim in it though!
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Beautyful. The Hong Kong version of Aqua, but with a few extra's.
What is that blue feature under the overspan?
Please god noooo!!! Tell me they changed the design....
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Old December 24th, 2010, 06:20 AM   #99
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Very impressive, i was in Hong Kong disneyland last month, i have to admit hospitality is your ways of life.
have a look at my country tourism http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=803392
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Wow! I remember last time I went to Hong Kong in 2006 and walking through NWC to get to the Avenue of Stars. The "old" NWC was actually a fairly modern building with a nice mall inside. Goes to show that Hong Kong will never stop out-growing itself.
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