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Melbourne Public Transport: NE Rail
The NE Group of lines comprises the Hurstbridge Line (which extends 37 km from the CBD) and the Epping Line (21 km) from the CBD. The Epping line originally extended via South Morang and Mernda to Whittlesea, c. 40 km from the city. The last 5 km of the Epping line and the last 15 km of the Hurstbridge line are single-track (with occasional crossing loops).
At the last State Election, Ted Bailleu promised an extension of the Epping service back to South Morang. He lost the election, and the current government has always insisted that this would eventuate, but not until the bridge across the Merri Creek, just 7 km from the city, was duplicated. Since there is a certain air of cynicism about transport projects here, I checked out this project, to see how it was going today. What was clear, as soon as I alighted at Rushall, on the Epping Line, was that this junction created problems: the train in the rear was stationary. ![]() It was waiting for a train like this: in peak hour, about a dozen trains trundle across this single-track bridge across Merri Creek (on the Hurstbridge line) in one direction or another: ![]() ^ Merri Creek had been in flood over the weekend, due to the best rain in two years. Below the centre span, you can see the "viewing platform" from which I took this subsequent shot, after wading through the debris deposited by the flood: the rusty red girders are beneath the train; the much deeper yellow girders are part of the new bridge behind it. ![]() As you can see, the bridge is almost complete. 176 metres long, 6 spans. From the same side but the opposite bank: the brick piers belong to the original 1888 bridge ( just before their big financial crash); the concrete and steel belong to the current project. ![]() Interesting artistry on the girders ... here's a fore-shortened view, looking across the two bridges: new on the left, old on the right: ![]() Although the bridge structure is complete, and they were twiddling with the railings, there's a bit more to be done yet. Sleepers and guttering stock-piled at the south end: note the amount of concrete guttering for just a few hundred metres of track: ![]() Re-positioning stanchions on the approach to Westgarth Station: ![]() and similar activities at Clifton Hill: presumably the new track will run through the right-most opening under Heidelburg Road here: ![]() Although the bridge construction appears to have gone according to schedule, constructing and consolidating the embankment on either side of the bridge abuttments, laying the track, and restoring the environment ("architectural" and "soft" landscaping ) will mean that the track is not in service until 2010. Duplicating the line from Keon Park to Epping won't involve building bridges like this ... but there you go, it is happening. Last edited by Yardmaster; December 17th, 2008 at 05:11 PM. Reason: spelling |
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Cheers for the update. Always good to see news and photos on projects that might otherwise be forgotten.
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Regarding the first photo, how is the new junction going to magically solve that?
The southbund train at Rushall is either being blocked by a northbound train heading from Clifton Hill to Westgarth, or from a southbound train from the latter. Neither of those conflicts disappear because of the new junction. |
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In part you're right ... the train will still have to follow the train from Hurstbridge/Greensborough and will have to cross any down train to Heidelburg. ... but in part you're wrong. It won't have to wait until the down train from Melbourne gets to Westgarth before the Up train from there can proceed. Of course, it will still have to cross any outbound train to Heidelburg ... I'm sure you could do a grade separation under the Queen's Parade Overpass for a song, my friend ... in a weekend. Maybe you should run for Parliament, or get a job at the MOT. Last edited by Yardmaster; December 17th, 2008 at 05:14 PM. Reason: spelling/typos |
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State time and day of photo.
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Thanks for the extensive update and pics Yardmaster. I used to live in North Fitzroy and CH was my closet station so I know the area well. I always wondered why the single track was not duplicated decades ago as it was such an obvious delay point in the network that was neglected (as has been the rail network in general).
I don't quite understand why it will still take until 2010 for the duplicate section to be fully operational, esp. given how advanced the bridge construction seems, but given how slow things move on the public transport front I guess one should not be surprised. |
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I can't see the photos.
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They said it would be in 2010 so that if it ran very late they'd be covered, and so they can boast about it being finished early.
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You're a real friendly guy, aren't you? It was Monday 15th December 2009, 3:51 to 5:01 in the afternoon. That is, two days ago; the day I posted it.
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When are these replacement buses going to run? Last edited by Yardmaster; December 17th, 2008 at 11:12 AM. |
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That's the Clifton Hill group. The NE line runs from North Melbourne to Albury-Wodonga.
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I'll answer that myself ... the Clifton Hill website foreshadows a shutdown of that line (says nothing about Bell ) from 2nd - 10th Janurary. But still forecasts a 2010 opening. Last edited by Yardmaster; December 17th, 2008 at 04:54 PM. |
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Here you go Yardy:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...4-2862,00.html http://forums.vicsig.net/viewtopic.php?p=27254#p27254 Do I get my money now?
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btw.: your signature appears to be a pair of quotations (at the moment). Could you attribute them? |
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#1 was from a post on this site by user 'Castro', you can find it if you want.
#2 was from IPART's recent report on CityRail fares that came out the other day. Where's your signature from? What's it getting at? C'mon, you gotta answer in return
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What it means is: get on the main game. Don't complain if your train is nearly empty one day, full the next (or six months hence), and then complain if they vary the timetable. Believe it or not, the people in there aren't just a bunch of fucking idiots, nor are they in it just for the swill (although they expect a salary). I'm not sure if you put a submission in to the Eddington Report: but I did. Curiously, what came out closely resembles what I suggested: I'm not suggesting I have any special influence (I don't), but it's pointless shooting plans down because they don't for instance, run an underground from Coburg to the City. Might happen one day, not today. Quote:
Sorry, Gappa, but the difficulty is not at this end ... btw: if this rail link is going to be opened so quickly, someone should get a few photos (or postings) in. Laying 750 m of track is not a huge effort: but making sure all the attendant infrastructure works safely is another matter. I'll be out of town a couple of times at least during the interim, but I'll try and do my bit. Last edited by Yardmaster; December 17th, 2008 at 05:10 PM. |
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Yardmaster must have a digital clock with only the hours digits.
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An update here, too:
Clifton Hill now has several new sets of points in operation at the north end of the station (compare with my last photo from this site): ![]() The new bridge is certainly in operation: a few seconds after I took this photo another train crossed the bridge in the opposite direction. I didn't hear anything about this in the news ... and I do listen for these things. ![]() A lot of work remains to be done: walking from Clifton Hill to Westgarth, I think I counted four routes which went across or under the the railway line which were closed due to construction works: hence the pile of dirt and rock in the foreground. ![]() Just for nostalgia's sake, at Westgarth: note the cabling that needs to be wrapped on the lower left. ![]() Since I almost staked my life on this track not being open on Australia Day, I'd be interested to know when it did open, but the only two locals at Westgarth had Ipods in their ears, and I didn't have the heart to bother them. Looking towards the bridge: a train approaching Westgarth from the City & Clifton Hill on the older (right) track: the new track on the left looks like it needs a bit of levelling out if you ask me. ![]() Interestingly, the new bridge seems to be signalled for operation in either direction. Maybe this is because construction work is still continuing? Last edited by Yardmaster; March 31st, 2009 at 09:46 PM. |
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http://www.premier.vic.gov.au/premie...dge-today.html
FIRST PASSENGER TRAINS ON NEW RAIL BRIDGE TODAY Tuesday, 27 January 2009 not quite Australia day but close. Any chance they'll grade separate the crossing point i.e. is there room? - seems like a logical next step to improve capacity on that section of track. I'm not seeing the photos above but I'm sure its probably my fault as I seem to have issues regularly with photos here (both posting and viewing). |
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