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Old March 23rd, 2012, 05:33 PM   #2161
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Guys, I know we whine and moan about some things in Cape Town, and things can move slowly etc etc BUT honestly, I think we are seriously in danger of becoming a World City!

And actually, the Civic Centre in its new paint job, with it's new IRT stop and it's pasta drainer, will be quite at home when Cape Town is WORLD design capital in 2014!
Pasta drainer...heh heh that is so funny. I'll never look at that building in quite the same way.

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Old March 23rd, 2012, 10:28 PM   #2162
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hey all, not sure if this is the right place to post this but i thought you guys might like it. its a Dutch tv ad shot in Cape Town featuring the stadium station. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4a4tMZTuDU

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Old March 28th, 2012, 02:12 PM   #2163
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The city have updated their "routes" section! :-D They now give detailed maps of the future routes. There are detailed maps of Table View, the City Bowl, Sea Point, Camps Bay, Hout Bay, Melkbos and even Atlantis. Now I really can't wait till the end of the year!
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Old March 29th, 2012, 05:05 PM   #2164
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Now IRT heads for the Flats

March 29 2012 at 11:17am

Bronwynne Jooste

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THE N2 is to play a major part in the City of Cape Town’s plan to expand its Integrated Rapid Transit (IRT) bus network system to Mitchells Plain and Khayelitsha, where the construction of new transport hubs has been earmarked for the middle of next year.

And more than R1 billion will be pumped into the expanded network of bus lanes set to benefit hundreds of thousands of commuters.

The city has said the routes will service between 75 and 80 percent of the city’s public transport users.

Mayor Patricia de Lille announced the draft budget for the next financial year during a full council meeting yesterday.

The operating budget is put at R24 billion, with just over R5bn to spend on capital projects.

The transport, roads and stormwater department was allocated R1.7bn, with R1.2 million earmarked for IRT.

In the next few weeks, the city will call for tenders for business consultants to complete detailed planning for these routes.

It is mooted that the “express service” will travel from these two areas along the N2 and into the city centre.

Mayoral committee member for transport Brett Herron said detailed planning of the routes would start in June. For now, it was suggested that the buses leave from Khayelitsha and Mitchells Plain, link up with the N2 and head towards the city centre.

Once it hits the N2, the “express service” would travel along the dedicated bus and minibus taxi (BMT) lane. From the city centre, commuters would be able to link up to other areas in the network, such as Montague Gardens and Camps Bay.

The Mitchells Plain and Khayelitsha routes fall into phase 2 of the system. Phase 1a is the network operating in the inner city and along the West Coast. In between these two phases is phase 1b, which connects the two phases.

Herron said advertisements for consultants would be placed soon. They would be appointed by June. From this point, there would be input about exactly which areas the buses would drive along on the trip towards the city centre.

The city has already racked up more than 2.5 million passenger trips on the existing network, which has been in operation since 2010.

“They will look to the detailed planning, including the exact routes the buses will travel,” said Herron.

By December 2013, an interim service in phase two would be operating.

He said the city had met the national government last Friday. Allocations from the national government still needed to be included in the city’s final budget.

“Once we have that confirmation, this should provide for further construction for phase 2 and phase 1 B.”

Herron explained that phase 1 B was the “integration between” the first and second phases.

This phase included feeder routes in parts of Table View and Bothasig.

The transport hub at the Town Centre in Mitchells Plain would also be upgraded in the next financial year.

And work would also continue on the projects known as Phase 1a. This phase included the routes in the city centre, travelling along the West Coast.

Funding would also go towards completing infrastructure along the West Coast, such as trunk stations and feeder stops. The Atlantis and Potsdam depots will also be completed.

The city pointed to examples in South America, Asia and Europe where well-run and affordable rapid transit systems had been launched.

Herron said the concept of the Bus Rapid Transit system was first mooted by the national government a few years ago. The city had also decided to look at an integrated rapid transport system, where all kinds of public transport were linked.

“While commuter rail is the backbone of our public transport network and MyCiTi is the new mode we are implementing, every mode has its role to play in ensuring a high-quality… affordable public transport network that ensures mobility and inclusion for all our residents.”

Plans for non-motorised transport included R83 million allocated to pedestrian lanes and expanding the cycle network.

For other projects in the transport, roads and stormwater department, R66m is set to be spent on reconstructing city roads.

In her speech yesterday, De Lille also announced R20m for the mayoral special job creation project. This will be for jobs under the expanded public works programme.

The city is also proposing R41m to buy land on which to build more houses. In total, the human settlements budget is just over R730m.

For health, a R6m clinic will be built in Site B in Khayelitsha, while another R25m goes towards a library in Bloekombos.

Property owners can expect an 8 percent increase in rates. Residents who cannot afford to pay will benefit from a R1.2bn rates rebate.

A 15 percent hike in water and sanitation tariffs is also proposed, while the free water service receives R111m.

De Lille said the city was also proposing that R120m be spent on broadband projects over the next three years.

This draft budget will now go to subcouncils, portfolio committees, the city and residents for public comment before being debated in council in May. The new financial year starts in July.

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Old March 29th, 2012, 08:18 PM   #2165
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cant wait for them to come to the southern surbs. but the flats make alot of sense probably get the highest number of commuters with the people living in blouberg etc.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 12:11 AM   #2166
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cant wait for them to come to the southern surbs. but the flats make alot of sense probably get the highest number of commuters with the people living in blouberg etc.
if they could link it to an UPGRADED rail service in the southern suburbs it'd be perfect. saying that it'll be many years before any of that happens.. assuming it even does happen!
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Old March 30th, 2012, 02:05 AM   #2167
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Metro Rail should privatise the Southern Suburbs line - the new operater could get new train sets ( but much less than if the whole city network was privatised ) and run the service with more class and comfort - there's at least 50 - 100 000 who'd use it regularly up and down the line. They could make Platform 1-4 at Cape Town Station for designated area for arrivals + departures
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Old March 30th, 2012, 08:30 AM   #2168
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Where's Tony Ehrenreich now?
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Old March 30th, 2012, 08:42 AM   #2169
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Where's Tony Ehrenreich now?
Finding a way to claim the IRT to the Flats is CoCT-colonisation and has imperialistic-tendencies.

Politics aside. It is of utmost importance to deliver a safe, efficient transit system to the city's poor. A really hope it not only makes commuting safer and easier, but also uplifts the Cape Flats.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 10:41 AM   #2170
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Went to the meeting for the public yesterday evening.

Ai. So much potential but a bunch of old boring people designing it so I'm never surprised at the lack of broader flexible thinking.

they need diversity of thought, academic background, race, culture,

Heck even thrown in some actual public transport users into the project team.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #2171
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Tweet it, broadcast it Mo. If we're going to build a successful province, we need to get these inadequacies out in the open. Let the CoCT, WC-EDP and CTP know the thoughts of the public on these matters.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 02:09 PM   #2172
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Metro Rail should privatise the Southern Suburbs line - the new operater could get new train sets ( but much less than if the whole city network was privatised ) and run the service with more class and comfort - there's at least 50 - 100 000 who'd use it regularly up and down the line. They could make Platform 1-4 at Cape Town Station for designated area for arrivals + departures
can you imagine how that'd go down with certain politicians? pandering to the white middle classes again they'd say! i dont think us souties should be given preferential treatment at all.. i think the whole city deserves to be saved from the tyranny of metrorail. and if myciti can branch out and become a truly world class bus system cape town will be a shining example for public transport in SA.
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Old March 31st, 2012, 02:26 PM   #2173
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Metro Rail should privatise the Southern Suburbs line - the new operater could get new train sets ( but much less than if the whole city network was privatised ) and run the service with more class and comfort - there's at least 50 - 100 000 who'd use it regularly up and down the line. They could make Platform 1-4 at Cape Town Station for designated area for arrivals + departures
Disagree as an outsider. Privatisation is normally a disaster as far as transportation goes, one only needs to look at the UK public transport system to see how deregulation and privatisation has killed off mass transit across many UK cities and why the UK (outside of London) has some of the worst modal splits of all European cities.

As far as privatisation models in Asia (Japan and Hong Kong), well, they're very different. Japan has a history of high rail usage and actually once you get out of the four big cities, railway service becomes more patchy and doesn't always match up to the publicly-owned transport systems in other cities of a similar size in terms of provision and quality. Hong Kong MTR is actually mostly government owned (76%) and raises massive revenues through property sales and development on MTR property surrounding stations, thus allowing them to continually invest.

As you can see, privatisation is a messy business and needs to be properly managed. I honestly don't think it would work when it comes to the Southern Suburbs line.
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Disagree as an outsider. Privatisation is normally a disaster as far as transportation goes, one only needs to look at the UK public transport system to see how deregulation and privatisation has killed off mass transit across many UK cities and why the UK (outside of London) has some of the worst modal splits of all European cities.

As far as privatisation models in Asia (Japan and Hong Kong), well, they're very different. Japan has a history of high rail usage and actually once you get out of the four big cities, railway service becomes more patchy and doesn't always match up to the publicly-owned transport systems in other cities of a similar size in terms of provision and quality. Hong Kong MTR is actually mostly government owned (76%) and raises massive revenues through property sales and development on MTR property surrounding stations, thus allowing them to continually invest.

As you can see, privatisation is a messy business and needs to be properly managed. I honestly don't think it would work when it comes to the Southern Suburbs line.
I so agree on that one.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 12:04 PM   #2176
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Just came back after a week spent in Centurion and I must say, I was highly impressed with the Gautrain. Here are some things (IMO) that MyCiTi can learn from the Gautrain:
1. Passengers should constantly be made aware of the the next station. The monitor on the inside of the bus should rather show the name of the next station (trunk) or stop (feeder) instead of the final destination or route name. It would work more effectively for for first time users.
2. Security and staff need to get a uniform ASAP! It makes such a big difference to the class of the system.
3. MyCiti should also become much more strict in terms of eating and drinking in stations and on busses. Both MyCiti and Gautrain have no eating or drinking policies, but the difference is that the Gautrain staff actually remember that rule exists. My friend wanted to enter Centurion Gautrain station with a bubblegum in his mouth and they would not allow him to enter. MyCiTi should most certainly adopt this policy.
4. MyConnect should also become a system which deducts money based on the distance you have travelled.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 12:46 PM   #2177
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MyCiTi update at futurecapetown.com today
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