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Old June 19th, 2016, 10:50 PM   #2661
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I have spent some time in Brazil and I noticed, that you have a lot of "PARE" (STOP) signs - even on crossroads, that are not very dangerous. But people rarely stop at those signs. It is not obligatory to actually stop your car, or people just don't care?
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Old June 19th, 2016, 11:00 PM   #2662
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I have spent some time in Brazil and I noticed, that you have a lot of "PARE" (STOP) signs - even on crossroads, that are not very dangerous. But people rarely stop at those signs. It is not obligatory to actually stop your car, or people just don't care?
People just ignore them often. Regulations are same as here: Yield (white triangle, red border) doesn't require stop, PARE (octagon) requires stop.
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Old June 19th, 2016, 11:41 PM   #2663
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STOP sign compliance appears to vary from country to country. I've noticed people in the U.S. stopping at them even when there's clearly no traffic coming. In the Netherlands it's more of a suggestion, depending on the situation, sometimes they're just used as 'traffic calming' (fancyspeak for measures to annoy motorists).
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Old June 20th, 2016, 01:07 AM   #2664
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Longest tunnel(3.382 m) in Brazil has opened today in Rio de Janeiro Downtown

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Old June 20th, 2016, 03:56 AM   #2665
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SP-270 km 586, near Presidente Bernardes, São Paulo state.
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Old June 20th, 2016, 03:58 PM   #2666
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Transolimpica expressway + BRT in Rio De Janeiro update





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Old June 21st, 2016, 12:50 AM   #2667
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Old June 21st, 2016, 04:21 PM   #2668
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SP-340 São Paulo state


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Old June 21st, 2016, 04:28 PM   #2669
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Is there a road number planned for the TransOlímpica Expressway?

Information on the internet seems to reference the BRT component mostly.
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 03:26 AM   #2670
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Is there a road number planned for the TransOlímpica Expressway?

Information on the internet seems to reference the BRT component mostly.
Until now, according to the website of the DER-RJ(Rio's state road departament) it didin't received any number, like the others expressways on the city(RJ071 and RJ079). This probably happen because they are numbers from the state road system, so the inclusion of the road on the system may need to be aprooved by the state legislators, which usualy takes some time.
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Old June 23rd, 2016, 01:50 AM   #2671
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Old June 25th, 2016, 01:10 AM   #2672
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Old June 25th, 2016, 05:21 AM   #2673
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São Paulo state goverment - Highways improvement in 2016

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Old June 25th, 2016, 01:00 PM   #2674
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Interligação Planalto

I was reading about Interligação Planalto (SP-041), which is a link between SP-150 and SP-160 south of São Paulo.

Apparently, trucks are banned from using SP-160 (Imigrantes) and are required to use SP-150 (Anchieta) to drive down to the coast.

But SP-160 (Imigrantes) is much newer and has a more modern alignment than SP-150 (Anchieta). SP-150 features hairpin turns while SP-160 has long viaducts and tunnels.

I found it a bit strange that they built a new, more modern route, but then ban trucks on it. Is it steeper than SP-150?



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I was reading about Interligação Planalto (SP-041), which is a link between SP-150 and SP-160 south of São Paulo.

Apparently, trucks are banned from using SP-160 (Imigrantes) and are required to use SP-150 (Anchieta) to drive down to the coast.

But SP-160 (Imigrantes) is much newer and has a more modern alignment than SP-150 (Anchieta). SP-150 features hairpin turns while SP-160 has long viaducts and tunnels.

I found it a bit strange that they built a new, more modern route, but then ban trucks on it. Is it steeper than SP-150?
SP-160 is not steeper, but it has a continuous 12km (IIRC) downhill 4-5.5% sector and one long tunnel. They feared too many incidents with trucks would happen if they allowed trucks on it (it also lacks escape ramps). Buses are also banned. A secondary reason they gave for the ban was to avoid trucks riding too slow downhill clogging up traffic and creating dangerous situations on tunnels). There are talks of changing these regulations in regard of modern trucks without second trailers and subject to weighing on-site.

When SP-160 was first opened in 1974, there was a 2x3 sector (now widened) on the highland sector, a reversible 1x3 mountainous sector and this connector you mentioned. This 1x3 sector was usually operated uphill, but reversed during peak downhill traffic days (around holidays, Fri/Sat on summer vacations etc).

The connector allows traffic to be channeled between SP-150 and SP-160.

In 2001 they opened what is now, usually, the downhill carriageway.

Sometimes they still reverse traffic direction on SP-160, but that happens sporadically: even if they could put in service 8 lanes on downhill direction on SP-160, and 2 uphill on SP-150, for instance, the other connections on the roads down at Santos flatlands cannot cope with traffic.

There used to be another road connecting Santos flatlands and port with the plateau where São Paulo sits. It's an old 1+1 road first built on 18th Century, then left in partial decay when railway links openened, improved and opened as an automobile link in the late 1910s and kept in use until a massive landslide cut it off sometime around 1989 (I'm not exactly sure about the year). It's numbered SP-148 "Caminho do Mar", and it is clearly visible on Google Satellite. After the landslide, they didn't know exactly what to do as the displacement was massive, then environwackos protested the reopening when a project was drawn and money found. The whole thing dragged down until the go-ahead of the new SP-160 lanes in the mid-1990s made the hypothetical reopening of SP-148 as a road redundant.

Today it has been restored and stabilized, through the mountain sector, as a cycling/walking track, you can use touristic minibuses that ride there.
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Old June 25th, 2016, 04:12 PM   #2676
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Thanks for the information!

They also recently started construction on a new interchange for a possible extension of SP-070 near Taubaté. Are they planning to extend it east in the near future? Google Earth satellite imagery only show works at the interchange, not yet on any extension east.

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Thanks for the information!

They also recently started construction on a new interchange for a possible extension of SP-070 near Taubaté. Are they planning to extend it east in the near future? Google Earth satellite imagery only show works at the interchange, not yet on any extension east.
An extension to SP-125 is under construction right now, should be ready in 2017.
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Old June 25th, 2016, 05:17 PM   #2678
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São Paulo state highways. On yellow, 2x2 or more lanes:

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Finalmente consegui baixar o mapa rodoviario de Sao Paulo versao 2015 no site do DER-SP. Tava dando erro a muito tempo.
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Geral do Estado. Aqui eu eliminei o varios layers para facilitar a diferenciacao das estradas duplicadas das simples:



As imagens ficaram grandes, mas se fosse diferente a visualizacao ficaria compremetida.

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