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Old June 21st, 2010, 09:01 PM   #401
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Rodoanel? (southern beltway of Sao Paulo)?
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Old June 21st, 2010, 09:16 PM   #402
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Yes. Opened for traffic since May 3 and now holding 113.000 AADT. Pictures were taken here http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...09863&t=h&z=14 (images outdated, with works still ongoing )
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Old June 21st, 2010, 09:33 PM   #403
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Amazing roads! What is the purpose of that white arched structure? Does it serve a specific function or is it there just for form?
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Old June 21st, 2010, 09:48 PM   #404
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It's just a monument with no structural function. They have been building a lot of cable-stayed bridges in Brazil recently and I guess they decided to honor the 2000's favorite design with this monument
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Old June 21st, 2010, 10:19 PM   #405
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it could be used as a fancy road sign support
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 07:49 PM   #406
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Old July 3rd, 2010, 12:07 AM   #407
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Old July 9th, 2010, 05:50 AM   #408
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Old July 11th, 2010, 01:07 AM   #409
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Guys, I dare to make a small suggestion: when reposting pictures or posting them first time, try to identify location or at least which road are you showing. It will make easier for the international crowd to look after them on Google Map or elsewhere.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 01:16 AM   #410
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A half-way solution

This post shows a typical Brazilian solution with its sibling problems. A road first built in the 60/70's was once paved as a 1+1 with generous shoulders crossing a mountain ridge (which Brazil has many, specific location: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...80588&t=h&z=13).

Then, after a couple decades, traffic multiplies and old 1+1 road means slow-flowing traffic uphill, which means many illegal passes over the double continuous line, which means accidents - when not traffic jams on the uphill lane.

So, they do away with the shoulders and make the road 2+1, no shoulder.

Note the precarious maintenance status of this road. Sub base and substructure can't cope with increased traffic and overweight trucks. Lots of longitudinal deformations, making it dangerous when wet. I guess our traffic-engineer in place in this sub forum will be scandalized by it rs.

This stretch is being duplicated, these 3 lanes will be then converted to two downhill lanes only.

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Old July 11th, 2010, 01:36 AM   #411
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Paved but almost destructed

Successive economic crises between 1979 and 1999 meant that many roads suffered, sometimes badly. As they are the only viable backbone of Brazilian transportation, costs increased and many drives had (sometimes still have) to endure things like this:

2003 - BR 020 near Tauá http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...80588&t=h&z=13

(c) Cabeça de Cuia Portal

2005 - BR 450 near Jaguaquara. Look how the unpaved but stable shoulder is preferred. Very sad.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...90294&t=h&z=14

(c) Ary Moura

2010 - RS 122 near Antonio Prado. The old tire gives an idea of the depth of local potholes. This can easily damage your car. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...80588&t=h&z=13



Note: I have no intention on offending Brazilians with pictures or road in bad shape. I'm (half) Brazilian too. I think it is interesting to show the effects of prolonged negligence on maintenance of roads + too heavy trucks traffic.
(c) RBS Radiodifusãol
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Old July 11th, 2010, 02:56 PM   #412
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Actually this thread needs more pics of the vast amount of bad roads in Brazil, reality is reality.

Is there a percentage of bad versus good roads in Brazil? What percentage is in good shape?
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Old July 12th, 2010, 02:13 AM   #413
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I think countries with Brasil's size tend to have more bad roads. Except US the richiest country, other countries cant mantain thousands of Kilometers from roads always nice and perfect. A small country is easy to do, but a continental country is far more dificulty.
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Old July 12th, 2010, 01:15 PM   #414
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I think countries with Brasil's size tend to have more bad roads. Except US the richiest country, other countries cant mantain thousands of Kilometers from roads always nice and perfect. A small country is easy to do, but a continental country is far more dificulty.
The Brazilian road network is not disproportional high to its area and population. The main problem is with governance and management, indeed. Even now that the fiscal outlook improved a lot over, say, 10 years ago, majority of the country's network is not covered, in any way, by a permanent maintenance scheme.

Then, when a small deformation appears on pavement, it can take weeks or months before a "maintenance" contract is put to tender and constructors drawn to the site. By then, water might have poured in and further deteriorated the upper layers of pavement. Henceforth, a wear-and-tear normal issue that could be dealt with "x" money end up costing "5x" after left unchecked fort the whole rain season.
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Old July 12th, 2010, 06:40 PM   #415
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AADT for toll plazas in roads between Campinas, Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro

ATENTION: this are traffic counts for the toll plazas only. All tolls operate as barrier tolls, thus AADT figures encompasses only part of the total AADT as far higher urban and local traffic do not pay tolls.



Highway configuration in each toll plaza:

Rodovia Presidente Dutra: all 2X2

Rodovia Ayrton Senna/Carvalho Pinto (west-to-east order): 3X2, 3X2, 2X2, 2X2

Rodovia Dom Pedro Primeiro: 2X2

Rodovia Bandeirantes (north-to-south order): 3X2, 4X2

Rodovia Anhanguera (north-to-south-direciont): all 2X2

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Old July 18th, 2010, 05:04 PM   #416
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Love this pic!

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Old July 18th, 2010, 05:09 PM   #417
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It would be nice if people posted which road they are showing!
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Old July 20th, 2010, 07:48 AM   #418
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BR-116 HIGHWAY - RIO DE JANEIRO <-> SAO PAULO PART


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Old July 23rd, 2010, 05:52 AM   #419
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Brasil Avenue - 58km extension passing through Rio de Janeiro

First five source www.oglobo.com O GLOBO newspaper












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Though it is named Avenue, is not actually one. It resembles more of an Urban Expressway, now grade-crossing-free. Location on Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...=UTF8&t=h&z=11
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