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Old September 21st, 2010, 01:59 AM   #481
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Salvador-Bahia state, highway between Br-324 and Port of Salvador






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Old September 23rd, 2010, 12:57 PM   #482
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As you can see Sao Paulo has by far the best roads in Brazil, but Rio Grande do Sul, Rio de Janeiro and Parana aren't bad either.

By the way, are there any recent pics of the Marginal Tiete widening?
The pdf map is very "optimistic".
A lot of roads listed as "good" (light blue) are very unsafe and uncomfortable to drive on.
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Old September 24th, 2010, 03:33 PM   #483
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The pdf map is very "optimistic".
A lot of roads listed as "good" (light blue) are very unsafe and uncomfortable to drive on.
The maps is not "optimistic", they are serious work planned by serious engineering folks

CNT uses a detailed protocol for road quality assessment, comprised of more than 18 items. Then they combine geometry, pavement and signaling scores into the overall quality score.

"Comfort" is a subjective measure. If a road is full of trucks, and overused, but is pavement is fine, signaling is perfect and geometry has no major issues, than you don't have a design/maintenance problem, you have a capacity problem, and that is outside the scope of CNT road monitoring.
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Old September 24th, 2010, 05:08 PM   #484
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The maps is not "optimistic", they are serious work planned by serious engineering folks

CNT uses a detailed protocol for road quality assessment, comprised of more than 18 items. Then they combine geometry, pavement and signaling scores into the overall quality score.

"Comfort" is a subjective measure. If a road is full of trucks, and overused, but is pavement is fine, signaling is perfect and geometry has no major issues, than you don't have a design/maintenance problem, you have a capacity problem, and that is outside the scope of CNT road monitoring.
I'm not talking about trucks only, I'm talking about the overall condition of some roads listed as being good. But ok, be my guest if you want to believe that Fernão Dias and BR 040 are in good conditions. Im sure "serious engineering folks" from Europe or N. America would disagree with those "serious engineering folks" who made the survey.
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Old September 24th, 2010, 05:23 PM   #485
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The pdf map is very "optimistic".
A lot of roads listed as "good" (light blue) are very unsafe and uncomfortable to drive on.
I think this perception happens because these avaliation doesn't not divide the roads in smaller stretches, so some really not good roads as BR-486 are showed as good. The good stretch outweighs the bad stretch, so it is marked as "regular" or even "good".
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Old September 25th, 2010, 04:30 AM   #486
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I think this perception happens because these avaliation doesn't not divide the roads in smaller stretches, so some really not good roads as BR-486 are showed as good. The good stretch outweighs the bad stretch, so it is marked as "regular" or even "good".
The detailed road surveys are consolidated for each 50km stretch. Then they give the overall average for the whole sector.

Just to remember: the road evaluation of this CNT survey is conducted and analyzed irrespective of traffic volumes. It's a pavement, geometry, safety features and signaling evaluation. Any overused road like those aforementioned here will render a degraded perception of quality because of its inadequacy to traffic volumes, but that is not something this survey focus in.
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Old September 26th, 2010, 12:37 AM   #487
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Old September 26th, 2010, 04:04 AM   #488
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Old September 26th, 2010, 04:39 AM   #489
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By the way, this is the highway connecting Belo Horizonte to Confins International Airport (CNF).
Yes, partially. When you get closer to Lagoa Santa it goes in NE direction and if you want to reach the airport you must keep going north instead of keep on MG-010.
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Old September 27th, 2010, 04:19 AM   #490
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Some roads in Sao Paulo countryside

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Bom, esse fim de semana fui à Marília visitar parentes, aproveitei pra tirar umas fotos e mostrar pra vocês que aqui em SP nem todas as rodovias boas são pedagiadas(mas umas 80% são )

Diminuí as fotos pra não ficar muito pesado.

Aqui vai um mapinha do trajeto que eu fiz...



Em vermelho a Rodovia Raposo Tavares, em amarelo a Rodovia Assis Chateaubriand(acho que é assim), e em azul a Rodovia Cmte. João Ribeiro de Barros.


01- Saíndo de PP



02- Entrando na Rodovia Raposo Tavares(SP 270)



03- SP 270



04- SP 270 saindo de Prudente.



05- SP 270



06- SP 270



07- SP 270



08- Rodovia Assis Chateaubriand (SP 425)


09- SP 425



10- SP 425 Trevo de Indiana



11- SP 425



12- SP 425 Trevo de Martinópolis



13- SP 425



14- SP 425 Desse trecho em diante a rodovia não é mais um "tapete" como antes, mas ela ainda é boa, sem buracos, só algumas ondulações e trepidações, mas dá pra manter uma velocidade boa 100, 110km/h. A SP 425 assim como a SP 270 tem um tráfego muito grande de carretas.



15- SP 425



16- SP 425



17- SP 425



18- SP 425



19- SP 425



20- SP 425



21- SP 425



22- SP 425 no trevo com a Rodovia Comandante João Ribeiro de Barros, que por sinal está excelente, foi duplicada recentemente num trecho de 100km, tapetão.



23- SP 294 Comandante João Ribeiro de Barros, está em obras de duplicação num pequeno trecho que faltou ser duplicado, estão acabando agora. Esse trecho tem uns 5km.



24- SP 294




25- SP 294



26- SP 294 Obras em pleno Sábado



27- SP 294 Obras



28- SP 294 Mais obras.



29- SP 294 Fim das obras.



30- SP 294



31- SP 294



32- SP 294 Chegando em Tupã, aquela construção ali atrás é um silo da CEAGESP.



33- SP 294



34- SP 294



35- SP 294



36- SP 294



37- SP 294 Dentro do distrito de Paulópolis, a Rodovia passa no meio da "cidade".



38-SP 294 entrando em Pompéia



39- SP 294 Pompéia



40- SP 294 Pompéia



41- SP 294 Pompéia



42- SP 294 Chegando em Marília



43- SP 294 Skyline de Marília(Essa deixei grande pra poder ver legal)



44- SP 294 Skyline de Marília



45- SP 294 Skyline de Marília(essa tirei entrando na SP 294 na volta)



46- SP 294 "Contornando Marília"



Essas duas tirei na volta à Prudente, à partir da SP 425 dá pra ter um visão legal do skyline de Prudente, não tirei mais fotos porque o sol estava bem de frente, e fod* tudo a lente da câmera.

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48- Essa foto foi tirada de uma vicinal que liga Prudente à Regente-Feijó(caminho alternativo à SP-270), essa estradinha "dá" na Zona Leste de PP, fiz esse caminho pra poder tirar essa foto.





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Opened new viaduct on highway BR-040

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Old September 27th, 2010, 09:37 AM   #492
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O viaduto das almas será abandonado/demolido/aproveitado para algo?
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Old September 28th, 2010, 02:04 AM   #493
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Highways, roads, routes, motorways and even cars are the same in Argentina than in Brazil

It's something like US-Canada similarities. Also including Uruguay
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Old September 28th, 2010, 09:50 AM   #494
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How many kilometers of motorway is there in Brazil? I never found accurate stats...
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Old September 28th, 2010, 07:28 PM   #495
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How many kilometers of motorway is there in Brazil? I never found accurate stats...
There is confusing about what is a motorway, with overlapping standards. Grade-separated, 2X2 or more lanes, access-controlled freeways are only the following:

- BR-290 (Freeway) Porto Alegre - Osório
- SP-348 (Bandeirantes) São Paulo - Cordeirópolis
- SP-160 (Imigrantes) São Paulo - São Vicente
- SP-021 (Rodoanel) São Paulo ringroad
- BR-116 (Contorno Leste) Curitiba bypass, east sector only
- SP-280/BR-374 (Castello Branco) São Paulo - Espírito Santo do Turvo
- SP-070 (Ayrton Senna/Carvalho Pinto) São Paulo - Taubaté
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Ayrton Senna Highway (SP-70)

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There is confusing about what is a motorway, with overlapping standards. Grade-separated, 2X2 or more lanes, access-controlled freeways are only the following:

- BR-290 (Freeway) Porto Alegre - Osório
- SP-348 (Bandeirantes) São Paulo - Cordeirópolis
- SP-160 (Imigrantes) São Paulo - São Vicente
- SP-021 (Rodoanel) São Paulo ringroad
- BR-116 (Contorno Leste) Curitiba bypass, east sector only
- SP-280/BR-374 (Castello Branco) São Paulo - Espírito Santo do Turvo
- SP-070 (Ayrton Senna/Carvalho Pinto) São Paulo - Taubaté
Your information is totally wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Exist much highways in Brazil............much more!!!!!!!!!!!

I use one highway, every day, that you not show here!!!!!! The Rodovia Santos Dumont, SP 075
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Your information is totally wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Exist much highways in Brazil............much more!!!!!!!!!!!

I use one highway, every day, that you not show here!!!!!! The Rodovia Santos Dumont, SP 075
Ele se refere às autoestradas no sentido estrito do termo, que são rodovias já construídas com esse fim, que são apenas essas 7 elencadas. As demais (como a SP-75) são rodovias que foram duplicadas e não atendem aos requisitos de uma autoestrada (raios mínimos de curvas e rampas, acessos controlados, etc.).
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Your information is totally wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Exist much highways in Brazil............much more!!!!!!!!!!!

I use one highway, every day, that you not show here!!!!!! The Rodovia Santos Dumont, SP 075
I know that truth hurts, but this is it. Brasil doesn't have a motorway system, just a few motorway stretches and the rest are old highways that has been badly fixed.
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