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Old October 1st, 2010, 12:54 AM   #501
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Your information is totally wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Exist much highways in Brazil............much more!!!!!!!!!!!

I use one highway, every day, that you not show here!!!!!! The Rodovia Santos Dumont, SP 075

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Old October 1st, 2010, 02:03 AM   #502
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I know that truth hurts, but this is it. Brasil doesn't have a motorway system, just a few motorway stretches and the rest are old highways that has been badly fixed.
The truth never hurts!!!!!!

But if you think like this.................I don't agree, but each other can have your opinion..........
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Old October 1st, 2010, 02:04 AM   #503
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Esse rodou a baiana. Conseguir visualizar o homem espumando enquanto digitava o post.
Que é isso............não rodei a baiana não, afinal, sou paulista
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Old October 1st, 2010, 02:40 AM   #504
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The truth never hurts!!!!!!

But if you think like this.................I don't agree, but each other can have your opinion..........
Opinion is one thing, but facts are facts. If you can't argue about this...

I recommend some reading for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorway


This is what we were talking about. MOTORWAYS. It can be translated as "autoestradas", but a "estrada duplicada" isn't a guarantee that it is a motorway, and I know you are confusing the terms. And unfortunately, Brazil just have a few motorways, with grade-separation, no small roads accessing it, no return in the medians, no pedestrian crossings, better curves....
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Old October 1st, 2010, 02:41 AM   #505
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The truth never hurts!!!!!!

But if you think like this.................I don't agree, but each other can have your opinion..........
Here on the Highway Intl. Forum, we use to limit the definition of highways/motorways to those that are and have:

- 2x2 configuration with median
- grade-separated junctions
- controlled access (not like many Brazilian 2X2 roads have side access and, gosh, even farm access)
- an uniform engineering standard

This is not the case of most Brazilian 2X2 roads, which we use to call it here expressways.

US and European practices, signaling and road classification are our source in doing this important distinction.
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Old October 1st, 2010, 08:29 PM   #506
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Any road can be a highway. A highway is not synominous with a motorway, and "highway" is a very very old word.
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Old October 1st, 2010, 09:16 PM   #507
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I know! But what Chris has asked was about narrow-meaning defined motorways.
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Old October 1st, 2010, 09:18 PM   #508
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And how many would there be if you take a broader definition of 2x2 roads that are (mostly) grade-separated? I guess Sao Paulo state alone has over 2.000 km of such roads.
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Old October 1st, 2010, 10:12 PM   #509
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And how many would there be if you take a broader definition of 2x2 roads that are (mostly) grade-separated? I guess Sao Paulo state alone has over 2.000 km of such roads.
Then you get stuck with a second definition problem: many 2x2 roads are grade-separated when connecting with other roads and even have collector lanes when passing through a city, but still retain grade-returns so estates and rural road with access to it can turn around each 2-5km.

If you allow for that, you'll end with something like 4.000km. I can calculate a more precise figure later.
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 01:59 AM   #510
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Opinion is one thing, but facts are facts. If you can't argue about this...

I recommend some reading for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorway


This is what we were talking about. MOTORWAYS. It can be translated as "autoestradas", but a "estrada duplicada" isn't a guarantee that it is a motorway, and I know you are confusing the terms. And unfortunately, Brazil just have a few motorways, with grade-separation, no small roads accessing it, no return in the medians, no pedestrian crossings, better curves....
The SP 075 is not a road doubled !!!!!!
It was made in an entirely new layout !!!!!!
The former still exists, being called "old road to Indaiatuba"
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 03:11 AM   #511
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BR-365 widening gets go-ahead

After some jiggling and some delays, widening works on BR-365 (Uberlandia X BR-153 junction) were cleared to restart on the whole sector. This will finally allow 2x2 expressway travel all the way from São Paulo to Brasília, though not through the shorter route.

Widening works on BR-153 are almost completed, save for the bridge over Parnaiba River, a major project which is on the financing stage.

This sector of BR-365, currently 1+1 has a relatively low AADTbut comprised 60% of traffic are trucks, resulting in lengthy lines of vehicles during the grain harvest season. It is a crucial link about to be upgraded.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 07:29 PM   #515
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It will be a thoroughfare following, roughly, the future alignment of the Rodoanel east sector (Sao Paulo ring road) 10 km inward. However, contrary to that other project, this one has the goal to spur new economic activities to generate more local employment, something I don't particularly agree as the area is, for most of it, blighted and unsafe for industries and so.




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Old October 18th, 2010, 08:15 PM   #516
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Schematic map of Sao Paulo ring road (sorry for the image size):

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Old October 19th, 2010, 12:51 AM   #517
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When is the rest scheduled to be completed?
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Old October 19th, 2010, 03:03 AM   #518
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When is the rest scheduled to be completed?
east sector: project approved, final tender Nov. 2010, completion late 2012
north sector: under environmental assessment, tender expected mid-2011, completion 2014.
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east sector: project approved, final tender Nov. 2010, completion late 2012
north sector: under environmental assessment, tender expected mid-2011, completion 2014.

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