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Old December 1st, 2010, 06:18 AM   #2081
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Politics aside, this building is heinous. Even with the class cladding, it looks like some supervillain HQ.
Kim Jong-Il is the supervillain and he is the one that is making his civilians build this
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Old December 1st, 2010, 06:31 AM   #2082
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Two functioning trolleybuses in one shot! So no electricity problems on that particular day, unless these two are stopped in their tracks (or, more accurately, stopped in their wires). But I highly doubt that because you can see a couple of passengers out the rear window of the red trolleybus.

The green one on the left looks like something from the 1950s. Hard to believe those are still running.

That yellow sign means that there's a pedestrian crosswalk ahead, but I can't see any zebra stripes on the pavement. There is a pedestrian who appears to be jaywalking across this six-lane avenue. Is that tolerable in a police state?

What is also interesting about this shot is that the platform in front of the hotel is still raw concrete. It hasn't been glassed up or anything. Which suggests that the priority was how this building would look from afar, in the skyline, instead of up close, where few would see it.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 07:31 AM   #2083
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That's one of them. I've seen several others.

Guys, I've been reading every single page of this thread -- page 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,
24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,
64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,
102,103,104, and page 105... Then on some of those not posted, search the same flickr usernames of the better photos posted,
they often have other pictures on flickr not posted here. There is a couple of foreign hobby photographing enthusiast that routinely
gets permission to get this close.

EXAMPLE -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/zaruka/...7624761048352/
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...and several others!...
There are closeup photos on flickr already, that's right up to the premises if you search carefully. SkyScraperCity ain't the center of the Internet...
The favourite photographer is zaruka, he's taken many great photos.

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Old December 1st, 2010, 07:55 AM   #2084
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stfu, jesus.
what the **** is your problem, you piece of shit douchebag???
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Old December 1st, 2010, 08:07 AM   #2085
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Would like to see that on a Hallmark card.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 08:19 AM   #2086
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Old December 1st, 2010, 08:45 AM   #2087
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I'm glad for North Korea that they can finish this. They are nice people and U.S media paints the entire country out to be evil. I had no idea this was being finished so this is a nice surprise.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 11:56 AM   #2088
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Do you even know what you're talking about? ( Seeing how slow you are, I don't think you do. )
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Old December 1st, 2010, 04:00 PM   #2089
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what the **** is your problem, you piece of shit douchebag???
Why do you think that North Korea has literally no electricity at all?

Why are you surprised that its public transit system operates?

Why do you think a jaywalker is...what, going to be arrested immediately and sent to the concentration camps?

NB, that platform has been built entirely in the last couple of years. I imagine they'll get around to finishing it once they've finished with the tower.

Google world shows there has been work on the platform. http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=3...09055&t=h&z=17
And those blue roofs again! (And there appear to be very large houses with gardens directly east of the Ryugyong. Inner Party member residences?)

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Old December 1st, 2010, 04:02 PM   #2090
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I have been asking to go to the construction site for the last two visits and this time I got to go. I may ask again in September to get an update. It is hard to get good photos due to weather but next year I am bringing better lenses and will try to get closer. My dream is to go inside. If the restaurant opens inside I intend to go. I cannot get back until after July 2011 but the 16 day September tour is what I intend to do. I will report on activity.
Yes, it was quite a rush to pull up to the site. I have other photos from 2008 and 2009 of the building. They seem more open about it now.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 08:50 PM   #2091
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I'm glad for North Korea that they can finish this. They are nice people and U.S media paints the entire country out to be evil.
No, just their government. There's a big difference between a country's government and its people. Everyone here recognizes that people are pretty much the same in every country.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 09:19 PM   #2092
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Good progress all around the building. From Google Earth:



The newer image is almost a year old now.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 01:48 AM   #2093
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(And there appear to be very large houses with gardens directly east of the Ryugyong. Inner Party member residences?)
No, of course not.

Those are pachinko parlors.

Everyone knows that.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 02:58 AM   #2094
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Why do you think that North Korea has literally no electricity at all?

Why are you surprised that its public transit system operates?
Just to add to that, Pyongyang is, a showpiece city designed to impress visiting foreigners and, just as importantly, the place where the North Korean élite live and work, so the régime makes sure that the city's infrastructure works as well as possible under the circumstances. In fact, the government has recently revised the Pyongyang City Management Law, which defines how the city is run and what resources must be provided:
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Article 17 stipulates that “the construction of housing must completely guaranteed,” and Article 51 states that planning for and production of commercial goods for Pyongyang must be ensured “without fail.” Housing, goods, electricity, capital and other necessities for the modernization of Pyongyang have now been essentially legally guaranteed. New housing in the capital has been a priority for the North, with construction already underway and plans for 30,000 additional units next year and 35,000 more in 2012. In order to show off these new renovations day and night, Article 27 calls for the “logical installation of street lights” to brighten walkways, roads, and national monuments. The new legal revision appears to be yet another step toward shoring up the framework for establishment of a ‘Strong and Prosperous Nation’ and transition of power to yet a third generation of Kims.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:52 AM   #2095
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I'm glad for North Korea that they can finish this. They are nice people and U.S media paints the entire country out to be evil. I had no idea this was being finished so this is a nice surprise.
Oh really? I had no idea you were a resident of North Korea.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 04:57 AM   #2096
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<soapbox>Woonsocket54 and diz, stop that. *Both* of you clearly went against SkyScraperCity forum rules.
Other people are already clicking the button under your name, trying to get you banned already. So settle down & focus on the useful discussions. Now back to your regular program. Skyscraper talk please. Thank you. This public notice reminds everyone they have the power to alert the owners of this website of problem posts, using one click.</soapbox>

Woonsocket54, your original post (before diz) is still more interesting than the boring politics, and did not deserve jiz' reply, but your subsequent reaction does not belong either, IMHO. (And if jiz must disagree, forum etiquette clearly shows that mediadave's question-based response is more appropriate than jiz's response, if you had to pick one of the two.)

*switching to immediate sidetrack mode -- trying to get thread back on topic*

--> Swiddle, excellent observation & photo mashup. Keep them coming.
--> mediadave, good link used by Swiddle to produce the animated gif.
--> Zaruka, excellent photos on flickr -- they are among the best & most educational architecture imagery.
--> Everyone, let's continue to compliment other posters (and photographers!) that work hard to post photos.

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Old December 2nd, 2010, 05:17 AM   #2097
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This section of the forum is not for political or economic debate. Go make a thread in the Skybar if you want to discuss those issues.

This thread was created for discussion and opinions about the Ryugyong Hotel, and nothing else.

I agree with Mark. Please stay on the topic that this thread was created for folks.

Thanks.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 07:04 AM   #2098
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It's difficult to part the politics from the skyscraper when it comes to this profoundly perplexing Potemkin pyramid, whose raison d'être appears to be to make a pretentious polemical political proclamation.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 11:14 AM   #2099
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Here's some more, pictures taken only 4 days ago!

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What an amazing and unique tower! Why can't you admire the brilliance of this building and leave the politics to the governments?

I guess everyone is a political analyst these days
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Old December 6th, 2010, 12:06 AM   #2100
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f0e_1190803294

A good video about life in Pyongyang. The average apartment is 150 square meters... which is quite a size. So likely much of this new building will be dedicated to apartments as US maintains so called "sanctions" against the DPRK and there won't be a lot of tourists until they are lifted.

Also there is very much vituperation and anti-DPRK propoganda on this thread. I will not get greatly off subject, but suffice it to say there are many starving people in the so called "united states"... even main politicians in the democratic party admit this to be a fact, so stop the provocations against the DPRK.

EDIT: Is it possible to embed videos here? I would like to embed the video about life in Pyongyang for viewing here.
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