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Old October 31st, 2011, 06:25 PM   #3001
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The problem is that Pyongyang is pretty much the only city in the whole country that looks like this. Ever seen satellite photos of the north compared with the south at nighttime? It is literally like night and day. Pyongyang is a tiny spot of light and the rest of the country is virtually blacked out.

I love this hotel, but the fact remains that it is centered in one of the most repressive countries in the world. Nobody needs propaganda to know that.
You are quite right, I don't disagree but NK has become lately too much of an underdog, bullied for the sake of being bullied, so that is why I like to occasionally take their side.
Anyway, the hotel will partially open in April next year. That is what really matters. They proved that they are not just quitters after all...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...struction.html
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Old October 31st, 2011, 10:31 PM   #3002
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I'm sure the moderators will take care of this troll.
Look, I would be glad if this proyect was real. When I see that other countries (developing nations) are making progress in any way, I become glad since the same is happening in my country ( Dominican Republic), it's just that I'm not going to pretend for something that isn't real at all.
I say they are brainwashed because of how the express themselves when interviewed. Most likely they are scared as hell, but you know what? Many developing nations have had their share of dictators and lunatics...if one day there is even the THOUGHT of removing Kim Yong Il and the future obligarcy, they will do it.
But please don't call me a troll when I'm just pointing out the truth. If it has happened in the past, well...it may be the same story again.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 10:39 PM   #3003
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Ever seen satellite photos of the north compared with the south at nighttime? It is literally like night and day. Pyongyang is a tiny spot of light and the rest of the country is virtually blacked out.
Some would say that wasting so much energy that you are forced into near continuous war with energy rich countries is not the better option.

God bless us.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 10:40 PM   #3004
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This is getting borderline annoying. The fact is that except for anecdotes, almost no one who isn't a North Korean elite has any substantial information about North Korea; the same should be said for Orascom and this tower. We're unfortunately limited in the extent to which we can make legitimate criticism of this building to its design and what we can observe of its construction.
It's true. No one can make a LEGITIMATE criticism of this building, but based on the patterns of the past (and how NK govt has hidden information over and over again), we can make an almost perfect prediction of what is to be of this building.

To the one up there calling me a troll. When YOU show me a picture that refutes my statement, I will eat my words and even apologize. I showed that it has happened in the past (many times), now prove me wrong then.
I hope one day democracy will come to NK and its people and finally the opressed are no longer violated their basic rights, but that has to be done by the NK people....maybe one day.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 10:46 PM   #3005
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Do you really think people are brainwashed there? They are enslave by the government, no self-conscious person would prefer that kind of lifestyle.

Don't put judgments on poor people, judge their government instead.
Coup de etat my friend. I know people are frightened, but look at the Arab Spring. Totally worth it for Lybia. Yes, many people died in Syria and Lybia, but it seems now that democracy will reign. Tunisia had or is having their first free elections in more than 50 years!
My best wishes to those countries.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 11:05 PM   #3006
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some people here just don't know how to stop.......

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Old November 1st, 2011, 12:03 AM   #3007
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Or when.

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Old November 1st, 2011, 04:29 AM   #3008
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OMG there are certain people that just don't want to see the truth. O well, I guess lalaland is a happier place.

Facts people, FACTS.

Even tough inside is going to be probably empty, the outside structure looks stunning. We'll see...
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Old November 1st, 2011, 04:35 AM   #3009
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I like the dunce cap on the top of the building. Seems fitting...
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Old November 1st, 2011, 07:06 AM   #3010
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OMG there are certain people that just don't want to see the truth. O well, I guess lalaland is a happier place.

Facts people, FACTS.

Even tough inside is going to be probably empty, the outside structure looks stunning. We'll see...
Everyone knows what are you trying to say but no ones care about it in this thread. Go away!
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Old November 1st, 2011, 09:58 AM   #3011
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Everyone knows what are you trying to say but no ones care about it in this thread. Go away!
Glad some comprehend. Just trying to point out the truth and that's it.

CHANGING TOPIC...
Is there any information on when the "completition" of this tower is due?
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Old November 1st, 2011, 10:06 AM   #3012
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Wow the cladding just changed everything.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 08:27 PM   #3013
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Is there any information on when the "completition" of this tower is due?
Yes, there is:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...struction.html

It is due to open in April 2012
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Old November 1st, 2011, 08:35 PM   #3014
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Earlier this year the regime announced it would shut universities for 10 months and send students to work in factories, agriculture and the construction sector to help rebuild its economy by 2012.

I wonder how many students will work on the construction of the inside of this hotel? Or on the rooftops of other Pyongyang buildings doing demolition by hand.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 08:56 PM   #3015
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Earlier this year the regime announced it would shut universities for 10 months and send students to work in factories, agriculture and the construction sector to help rebuild its economy by 2012.

I wonder how many students will work on the construction of the inside of this hotel? Or on the rooftops of other Pyongyang buildings doing demolition by hand.
Apparently the students are out in the rice fields where they help the peasantry and toil for the motherland but also working on building sites.

http://www.koreaherald.com/national/...20111019000763

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According to North Korean media outlets, the North has been constructing a 77-storied apartment complex, theaters and public parks in a district surrounding the two four-way intersections of Mansudae and Changjon
Wow!
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Old November 1st, 2011, 11:52 PM   #3016
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http://www.nkeconwatch.com/nk-upload...TV-6-9-no2.jpg

http://www.nkeconwatch.com/

North Korean versions of the Chicagoan Marina City
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 12:05 AM   #3017
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Acording to the link above

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...struction.html

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The building which will have the hotel on 20th to 30th l
So it's going to be mostly not a hotel. That's news to me.

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Old November 2nd, 2011, 12:33 AM   #3018
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Acording to the link above

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...struction.html

So it's going to be mostly not a hotel. That's news to me.

Derek
Hi Derek!

It's hard to tell if it's going to be exclusively a hotel after all. I am also puzzled as to the so-called 77-storied apartment complex. It must be quite huge and I guess it must be the "Hotel of Doom" itself! I mean at 77 floors it really stands tall, it can't be anything else but Ryugyong "Hotel". Or is it another mystery building?
In fact, Ryugyong has got 105 floors, so the 77-storied building is unaccounted for.

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Old November 2nd, 2011, 03:04 PM   #3019
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 03:05 AM   #3020
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That first photo is the first one I recall seeing that is perfectly centered on the edge of one of the wings. I've been hoping for such an angle for a long time.
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