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Old September 14th, 2012, 07:34 AM   #3641
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for what this hotel should include, maybe we can check Koryo Hotel (best in NK) as a guide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koryo_Hotel
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev...Pyongyang.html
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Old September 14th, 2012, 12:44 PM   #3642
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I don't care what anyone thinks, I always thought this building looked awesome.
yeah i think most people are blended by the location and therefor hate it
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Old September 14th, 2012, 10:59 PM   #3643
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I wish people would look beyond its location, or its 15 year pause in construction to see its true beauty. 90% of its hate is just based on the fact that it's in North Korea, and that closed-mindedness sickens me.

If it were built anywhere else, it would become one of the most adored buildings.
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Old September 15th, 2012, 04:08 PM   #3644
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yeah i think most people are blended by the location and therefor hate it
Are you sure it is 'blended' and not 'blinded' ?

But typo apart, yes, I agree with the fact that many people dislike the logo 'North Korea' so they feel obliged (for a silly reason) to hate any building/thing/human being that originates from that place too.
Which is a daft, emotive stance. In a way, they are the victims of the massive anti-North Korean propaganda that has been going around for many decades by now. That said, I am not endorsing the North Koreans, which is not to say that I'm hating them either just because Uncle Sam tells us so...
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Old September 15th, 2012, 04:30 PM   #3645
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I wish people would look beyond its location, or its 15 year pause in construction to see its true beauty.
I like this building because of its boldness, it certainly isn't just another indetikit offering of the sort we get far too much of these days.

But there is one issue I have with the design; it's not symetrical when viewed from certain angles and it seems ot give it somethnig of a strange almost lop-sided appearance.

It is probably true as well the it will never really be fully used and sadly it probably is something of a folly.

But yeah, I do like the thing.

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Old September 15th, 2012, 11:55 PM   #3646
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If this building had been finished in 1990 or when it was supposed to, it would have been one of the world's tallest... Has anyone ever thought about that?
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Old September 16th, 2012, 12:46 AM   #3647
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It would have been the tallest hotel in the world, that's for sure.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 11:39 AM   #3648
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If this building had been finished in 1990 or when it was supposed to, it would have been one of the world's tallest... Has anyone ever thought about that?
it was meant to be the tallest hotel, but it did not happen, little use to think about something that didn't happen.

it will still be second in terms of flooor count, that is if and when it is finish open for visitors.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 03:06 PM   #3649
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Are you sure it is 'blended' and not 'blinded' ?

But typo apart, yes, I agree with the fact that many people dislike the logo 'North Korea' so they feel obliged (for a silly reason) to hate any building/thing/human being that originates from that place too.
Which is a daft, emotive stance. In a way, they are the victims of the massive anti-North Korean propaganda that has been going around for many decades by now. That said, I am not endorsing the North Koreans, which is not to say that I'm hating them either just because Uncle Sam tells us so...
Very well said.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #3650
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The Ryugyong Hotel is one of the most futuristic buildings on earth, why so many people have a bad opinion about it?
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Old September 16th, 2012, 08:09 PM   #3651
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The Ryugyong Hotel is one of the most futuristic buildings on earth, why so many people have a bad opinion about it?
because its in North Korea, and there all brainwashed by the west to hate everything about Nort Korea
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Old September 16th, 2012, 08:13 PM   #3652
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The West is brainwashed about North-Korea? I wish the West was "brainwashed" like that about USSR 30-50 years ago.

I personally don't have anything against the building itself. It's not my taste but it's not bad either. But you just can't expect people to look past the strictest totalitarian regime on this planet because of one building that looks modern.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 08:15 PM   #3653
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Not really. I've always hated it and it has nothing to do with it being in N. Korea. The design is tacky, but the glass facade is its saving grace and made it tolerable imo
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Old September 16th, 2012, 08:22 PM   #3654
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Maybe because people find this tower a bit to stereotypical futuristic? Making it a building from an old science fiction movie that predicted life in 1999. Since it's already 2012 people know that things have moved on in a different direction and that futuristic is now something completely different.

Not everyone likes retro futuristic.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 08:55 PM   #3655
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The Ryugyong Hotel is one of the most futuristic buildings on earth, why so many people have a bad opinion about it?
Well, external aesthetics are something subjective, but the truth is that the health of the structure is not very reliable.

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Old September 16th, 2012, 08:59 PM   #3656
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OMG, that picture looks terrible!
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Old September 16th, 2012, 09:02 PM   #3657
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The building is not ''healthy'' at all...
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Old September 16th, 2012, 10:37 PM   #3658
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That was a before picture, there are also after pictures that show that work has been done on the concrete.

Does this mean that it's the strongest and safest building on planet earth, probably not. But it's also very unlikely that it collapse the moment people will start to use it.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 11:57 PM   #3659
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0:50 - Amazing building and outdoor also very cute the new Village amusement park, hopefully the rest of the world respect and maintain their culture and not just imposing U.S. culture. Respect for cultural and economic independence of North Korea.
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Old September 17th, 2012, 12:49 AM   #3660
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The hotel is not even close to being in good health and never was. An inspection by the European Union revealed that the concrete used for the building was of extremely poor quality and extremely weak. Also, the elevator shafts were deformed. They declared the hotel irreparable. Orascom with their poor 400 million budget just can't fix such a wreck. On the pictures shown below the decay and crumbling of the concrete can be clearly seen. Yes, those crumbled edges can be restored, but the truly shocking thing is that they crumbled so much during the time the hotel was on hold. In Bratislava there are many exposed concrete structures, one even a shell of a building like the Slaughterhotel but at the edges they show either no damage at all, or only minimal damage. The fact that the Slaughterhotel shows such extensive damage on its edges is testimony of the poorness of the quality of its concrete. Concrete can be restored, but one can not restore strength the building never possessed. Some experts even say that just as much as full occupancy could cause the building to collapse.

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